I still don't know why my responses to this group don't show up for days, even 
weeks. That aside, I think markup is only useful for keeping the size of the 
file small. Triple letters is a bit much, and I wish it were double characters 
for everything. <br> was 4 and I have it times 1000, so """ is 3 X 1000 = 3000. 
Sooo, thank you 1000 times Jeremy. I wish it could be 2000 times.




Sent from my Samsung Epicâ„¢ 4G TouchVincent Yeh <qmo.w...@gmail.com> wrote:Mat,

I'd like to +1 (and like) the idea of "as few, as generic and as coherent as 
possible". :-)

Have fun!
Vincent

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:17:49 PM UTC+8, Mat wrote:
Various editors allow you to press Shift+Enter for hard line breaks. I think 
this would be a nice(-r) solution, if possible.

But actually, if I understand it right there is now

<<< and > for block quotes (btw, I'm always unsure if it's <<< or >>>) (with 
resevations for googlegroup messing up this here)
```` for monospace
""" for hard line breaks
double enter for paragraphs
and maybe more.

...am I alone in thinking that this is a bit much? It doesn't feel coherent. 
Even CSS would be more intuitive and generic ; ie {{block{ ... {{mono{ ...etc. 
So how about this idea, using the single and familiar > as a markup indicator

>block
here's the
block text
>block

>mono
10 write "Hello"
20 goto 10;
>mono

>linebreaks
poetry for
the people
>linebreaks

etc

Maybe that repetitive bottom command is not necessary, i.e instead of bottom 
>mono just a single > to show end.

Could even be with optional commands for even easier use, ie all these for the 
same result: >mono or >code or >m or >c

I think this is a LOT easier to learn (and there's already a LOT of other stuff 
to learn in order to use TW). I think we should strive for as few, as genereic 
and as coherent commands as possible.

<:-)


On Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:16:58 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
I've just added support for hard line breaks using triple-double quotes:

"""
The linebreak at the end
of this line
will be preserved
"""

The new feature will be released with 5.0.2 shortly

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:50 AM, jb <dall...@gmail.com> wrote:
Me too. I am a long time TWC user (several yrs.) without really understand all 
the underlying code. I have been able to mimic others and use some or Eric's 
awesome plugins. I am having a really hard time warming up to all of the extra 
spacing in TW5. If only we could get a theme that have a more 'classic' look.
Awesome job Jeremy!


On Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:11:31 PM UTC+8, Gerald Strickland wrote:
First off, thank you Jeremy Ruston and to all of those involved with 
TiddlyWiki. I started using TWC a few months ago and it completely satisfied 
the way I like to keep my notes and document whatever I happen to be working 
on. Simply incredible. Then early this month, while looking for ways to tweak 
the look of my TWC, I came across TW5 and was blown away!

The question is exactly what's written on the subject line. In TWC, when 
writing a tiddler, I can hit the enter key and start a new line. In TW5, I can 
only (afaik) achieve this either by creating a bullet or numbered list. There 
are cases where I would not want a bullet or numbered list and just simply 
create a new line. The way I'm doing this now is by typing in <br> in front of 
each line. Is there another way of doing this? Not that big of a deal if there 
isn't, just curious. I understand hitting "Enter" twice moves you down to a new 
line, but I'd prefer if I didn't have that much space between my lines.

I could always experiment using a text expander software or something like that 
to speed up the <br> inputs. OR I could make it easy on myself and just get 
used to numbered lists and bullets.
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