On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:23 PM, David Gifford <dgiff...@crcna.org> wrote:
> Hi Jeremy, that is somewhat bad news for me...I guess I will await your > 'hacks'... > > Question: if I do <img src=... can I do a partial filepath and store the > images in a folder nearby? Or would I need the entire filepath? I would > prefer to do the partial path so that if I transfer to a different computer > in the future I won't have to redo filepaths > You can't get <img src> to work at the moment unless you can arrange for your image folder to be served over http. Unfortunately, browsers won't let you reference images on a file: URI from within a webpage that has been served over HTTP. We need to get the TW server serving the tiddlers as separate image files. Best wishes Jeremy > > Dave > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi Dave >> >> At the moment, running under Node.js is more about having the convenience >> of managing your tiddlers as individual files. When a TW is built it >> includes a representation of all tiddlers, whether it is built for serving >> to the browser via tiddlywiki --server, or built as a standalone HTML file. >> >> The reason that Firefox is crashing is because all of those images are >> packed into the TiddlyWiki file as base64 tiddlers. Unpacking and >> displaying them will be much less efficient than working with an ordinary >> independent image file. >> >> TiddlyWiki5 does support lazy loading, where the original TiddlyWiki file >> is built with "skinny tiddlers" that omit the body, but include the >> metadata (tags etc), and then the body is loaded on demand. Lazy loading is >> currently only implemented when running on TiddlyWeb/TiddlySpace, but the >> plan is to support it natively too. >> >> What's needed is a way of specifying tiddlers within a wiki folder that >> should be served skinny. For example, a new filter operation like >> "[is[image]]". >> >> For better performance with images, it would be useful to be able to >> render images as ordinary <img src=...> tags, rather than base64. >> >> I'll investigate some quick hacks that will get things working for you, >> >> Best wishes >> >> Jeremy >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:27 PM, David Gifford <dgiff...@crcna.org>wrote: >> >>> Still trying to drive trucks over your bridges, Jeremy! But seriously, >>> that was my whole motivation for using node.js, because I thought that it >>> saved the tiddlers as separate files and loaded them as needed, thus >>> reducing filesize. But if node.js has the same limitation as standalone, >>> then I am not sure what the advantage is, other than playing around with >>> putting tiddlers in folders? >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:25 PM, David Gifford <dgiff...@crcna.org>wrote: >>> >>>> 145MB is the filesize. And Firefox gave me an error when I tried to >>>> click on it. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Dave >>>>> >>>>> It's actually not Node.js that's running out of memory here, it's the >>>>> browser. It's not normal behaviour, though, and I've not seen anything >>>>> like >>>>> this reported before. It's certainly not something that's associated with >>>>> running Node.js. >>>>> >>>>> You say that you've got 2000 tiddlers in there with many images, >>>>> perhaps it's just that you're generating a sufficiently large TW file to >>>>> confuse the browser. >>>>> >>>>> If you save the wiki as a standalone HTML file, how big is it? >>>>> >>>>> tiddlywiki --rendertiddler $:/core/save/all index.html text/plain >>>>> >>>>> Another possibility is that you've inadvertently set up an infinite >>>>> loop - TW tries to protect you from circular transclusion, but if you >>>>> somehow managed it, the symptom would likely be an out of memory error. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Jeremy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:00 PM, David Gifford <dgiff...@crcna.org>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is a pretty important question for me. If I don't get this >>>>>> resolved, node.js will not be worth investing my time and effort in. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:43:52 AM UTC-5, David Gifford wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In node.js, using 5.0.6 beta, Windows 8.0, Firefox, I am starting to >>>>>>> get the message below. Not sure what memory it is out of. This is a >>>>>>> brand >>>>>>> new computer with lots of memory. Tried clearing the browser history, >>>>>>> etc, >>>>>>> and that hasn't helped. Amazingly, though, the tiddlers did manage to >>>>>>> save, >>>>>>> despite the error message. Any ideas? I have just over 2000 tiddlers, >>>>>>> many >>>>>>> of them are image tiddlers. And I tweaked the tiddlerinfo panel so that >>>>>>> there is an extra tab that displays the title, tags and text of all >>>>>>> tiddlers tagged with that tiddler's title. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is the text of the error: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Internal JavaScript Error >>>>>>> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart >>>>>>> TiddlyWiki by refreshing your browser >>>>>>> uncaught exception: out of memory >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jeremy Ruston >>>>> mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/dIrdnKRfmj8/unsubscribe. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> David Gifford >>>> Christian Reformed World Missions, Mexico City >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Gifford >>> Christian Reformed World Missions, Mexico City >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeremy Ruston >> mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/dIrdnKRfmj8/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > David Gifford > Christian Reformed World Missions, Mexico City > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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