Ed Just a footnote. I believe the userbase is far, far more than 15,000. Look at this recent thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/g_YeDXCvZGY
Quite how high it is difficult to estimate because (1) usage (by design) is not tracked; (2) proper download analytics are not available. BUT download details for TiddlyFox are. And are interesting. I suspect there is a large, largely silent, userbase. Best wishes Josiah On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 01:42:15 UTC+2, Ed wrote: > > Hi Dear All, > > A good manual in whatever form either a real book or a tiddlywiki is long > overdue. > Jeremy told us that there are about 15,000 users all over the globe. > That's zilch > considering the enourmous power that seems/is hidden in the software. > When I see what beautiful stuff some people can make; it's absolutely > amazing. > > That indeed IS one of the problems as people looking around to get more > out of > the plain vanilla tiddlywiki they have been using so far. They feel that > they are not > using it to its fuller potential and specific use cases they might have > could really > benefit from better understanding and better structured help. At present > most of the > available documentation is NOT very helpful. > > Take e.g. Tiddlywiki on node.js. The tiddler "Getting Starting - Node.js" > is very > helpful as it describes the process nicely step by step. Being an absolute > nitwit > as far as Node.je is concerned I managed to get the Tiddlywiki up and > running. > (Though, I would like to see, even here, a tiddler dealing with Windows, > one other > tiddler dealing with Mac stuff and third one explaining it to the > Linuxians) > > Ok, then you go to the tiddler "Using TiddlyWiki on Node.js", because you > want > to use it. Right? Does it help a beginner the way the other tiddler did? > No. > It does not help one bit. > > Initial documentation is easy, but the next step seems always not a step, > but a > bridge too far. That goes for most the documentation available. So when > somebody > writes a manual or chapters of a manual he/she should take care to proceed > in a > gradual way. > - Preferably at the beginning of any chapter some sort of entry level > should be described. > > The beauty of TiddlyWiki is so obvious to many of us that quite a number > of people > like to share what they make and I highly appreciate that, please believe > me, but at > the same time they create, being creative people, a problem, when the > tiddlywiki created > deviates much from the plainest vanilla tiddlywiki. > - So anything written for the TWManual should be a simply as possible. No > fancy colors, > no fancy layouts. Only the stuff that is really necessary for the specific > problem or use > case at hand should be included. > > Of course TiddlyWiki is very inviting. The technlogy begs to go ahead and > e.g transclude > from all over the place. The globe is our playground, isn't? But having > worked in publishing > I think differently. Any publisher can and will tell you that > - you really need (an) EDITOR(S) responsable for the total outlook and > writing style of the > (final)(emerging) product. It will be in English initially, so remember > that not all the potential > users have the same grasp of the language. I am myself not very happy with > my English. > We don't want to be stuck at 15,000 users, we want more, being the > evangelists we are. 8-)) > > - Obviously, the work on the manual should be done some place else. NOT > here in this group. > Uhoh... It's late here, gotta stop. My better half is pulling me away > from the keyboard. > Salut! Ed. > > > > > Op maandag 6 juni 2016 16:39:12 UTC+2 schreef madscijr: >> >> Just sayin'. I would find it useful, if only the way the Dummies books >> are structured. >> Maybe dedicate half the book to TW Classic and half to TW 5? >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/eb9e080f-3f85-4099-be68-00bad0103057%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
