Here is the file with the adjusted spacing. You have to create a few 
tiddlers with text and use the topmenu Hide button to hide the tiddler 
titles to see what I did. http://giffmex.org/experiments/notestorm2017.html

On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 1:40:04 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Okay, one of only two more questions to ask for the day...
>
> I have this in my top menu
>
> <$fieldmangler tiddler="$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title">
> <$button message="tm-add-tag" class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink" 
> param="$:/tags/ViewTemplate">show</$button> <$button 
> message="tm-remove-tag" class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink" 
> param="$:/tags/ViewTemplate">hide</$button></$fieldmangler>
>
> The titles and toolbar disappear, but there is still some unwanted space 
> still showing above the tiddler text. Probably some kind of extra space so 
> that the title and text are spearated. How might I also remove that when 
> clicking the mangler button? 
>

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