Ciao Josiah, > > Eeek! Loss of keyboard! :-) And there I was researching character sets :-) > FYI Re on-screen keyboards I responded to PMario's negative comments on > GitHub here: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3111 > <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FJermolene%2FTiddlyWiki5%2Fissues%2F3111&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGoBFs87SnCAkwg5i65OSMmqwN9Cg> >
oh no creativity there .... I'm playing around, come on :D but that's no problem, I make concepts which not always make sense but I explore them anyway It's still also a keyboard like the first design was! You just add a tiddler tagged $:/tags/EntryPanel and populate it with how many characters you want, there's no limit > > This is very different but interesting & useful too. > > Maybe when you iterate it next you might want to start a newly titled > thread because the title of this thread is misleading. This is an > editor-bar mod, not a keyboard? > I will do when the design is settled > > I looked and played ... A few comments ... > > _DOWNSIDES_ (Current) > > POSITIONING: The gadget currently scrolls off-screen if you working and > moving around in a long Tiddler (Firefox 52, Win64. Chrome latest Win). > That kinda defeats the objective? > klicking the right or left space hides it and clicking again brings it back where you clicked - so if it scrolls off screen you don't have to search for it, just click it back > > PERFORMANCE: If you have a VERY long Tiddler, like novel length, the > performance is bad. Its okay for first invoke but not if need to re-invoke > it a lot. That is likely to do with big Tiddlers not the gadget per se but > it is a practical issue. > hm, I'll have to try that out - are you using firefox? > > DESIGN: Visual position: I can't really see the advantage over a normal > editor bar that was "sticky". IMO design-wise an editor bar that stays > visible position at the TOP of the Tiddler as you scroll down (i.e. the > Tiddler content scrolls under it and goes offscreen, but the bar remains in > position) is an adequate solution that functionally extends TW. ALSO the > right-hand positioning of the normal controls I think will be difficult to > make work universally. It eats screen estate and currently conflicts with > other settings like some side-bar widths (ask if you need more info on > this). > that's true. if it's only for the bar then a sticky bar on top would do it. I like my approach more for having the fields, tags and type input fields accessible anywhere > > SCOPE: I think there is an issue, a kinda conflict, between what it can > give access to and the scope of an edit bar. To open that up ... take the > example of Emojis ... there are dozens of them. Is it limited to one line? > Say it could show 3 lines of Emojis, how might that impact the line being > edited? Would it get hidden? I guess that opening a tab with multiple lines > of symbols could be set to close after you selected on item? > No limit for how many emojis you want to add - only the number of available emojis Have you seen that the panel can be shown at the right side of tiddlers? There's a Settings tab > > FYI, in design terms I was interested in the "Keyboard" because it gave > access to potentially hundreds of items. This, I think, maybe can't work so > easily that way? > This still works the same way > > _MAJOR UPSIDE ++_ > > VISUAL INPUT: It gives a rich way to do what the Stamp tool does but in a > visually direct way. That is a real upside. Particularly for character sets > (I was thinking particularly of MINIMAL VARIANT CHARACTERS for European > languages ... For instance, on standard Italian keyboards "@" "#" require > special AltGr shifts, "tilde" is non-existent, and most irritating "curly > brackets" are missing too) . Having such characters available on one click > makes great sense for practical editing. > > Hope this does not come over as negative. Its not meant to be. I think its > a very interesting and potentially useful way with the editor. > No this is good! I'm not decided about how this should look like from design aspects. I can't say that I like how it looks :D I'm playing around to see how this can add functionality and if it's worth something > > Very best wishes > Josiah > > > BTC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4411faca-eb7e-4ad4-a3cf-514214e6e273%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
