Ciao Mohammad I'm aware I may be coming over more negative than I actually am. But I do think there is "fragmentation" of resources in TW that is avoidable.
Mohammad wrote: > > I also use the TW for my students. The issue is due to the non-linear > nature of TW, most students confuse and it is difficult to them to find a > good solution for their problems in using TW. > I fully agree the dilemma of students can be very much like that. And it is not that different than, say, you wanted to train in Anthropology. That field, like any, has its own logic & it takes time to orientate. But I don't think that is our central issue. > As a simple wiki the bare TW (standard edition) is enough, but as they go > in depth for more applied usage like dissertation, project and term papers > they have problems can not be addressed > by themselves nor from TW documentation nor simply from TW forum. > Right. Exactly. THAT is my point. And I am absolutely sure we could organise better to address it. Part of the issue is it needs time & people to do it. And another part, a bigger part, is one person can't do that really. So, in the end, I've concluded ...it is much more about having a METHODOLOGY, A SYSTEM, for being able to quickly organise links to significant stuff. ...THAT we lack in an adequate form. Full stop. > I think one way is to have more editions for different applications, also > a structured step by step tutorial (basics, intermediate and advanced) can > be helpful. > Yep. I agree. But as I have indicated several times before its a bit of a myth that we lack editions or that we lack basic documentation for them. Rather, the issue is that the main source of (adequate enough proto-)documentation is THIS GG group you reading now. And it has NO sense of history. So once a thread is completed its disappears into a messy swamp you can't accurately find things in. But much of most of what you need is usually in the archive for this list somewhere. In brief: *You often can't find what you need when you need it*. Apart from tiddlywiki.com, everything is too DISORGANISED. > One more thing indicated by TonyM, TiddlyWiki is not just a wiki, it is > like a programming language and there is many many ways to adopt it for > your own application. While this > is a very good strength of TW, it makes confusion for newcomers. > TonyM is right. But the "finding issue" applies there too, I think. BTW, it has been very interesting to watch, and help a bit, David Gifford develop TiddlyWiki Toolmap <https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM>, a basic listing of some resources. Its indicative of the richness available that to otherwise find would be burdensome. It is really helpful to have. But its still only the Tip Of An Informational Iceberg that is largely invisible. Best wishes Josiah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/74c6feeb-88f0-4ea1-b57e-a6b00e7590b7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
