Hi TiddlyTweeter, Watt and Tony, Thanks for this great feedback!
I'm going to respond to Tony first because these are some very basic questions I'd like to answer and discuss first Folks esp BTC, > > I have being following this with great interest but Christmas / New Year > and the temporary loss of one eye, has slowed me down. > Tony, I hope everything went well > > I have trawled the thread and cant find where to locate the latest apkxx, > Or a link to it to use on the phone. *What is the definitive location for > it now?* > and is there a step by step instruction to installing the apk? > The apk is temporarily down as currently it's too experimental with some things behaving strange. I don't want people to install it over an eventually installed previous version which is somehow already in use as it seems. There is no definitive location yet. The Github repository is for having quick access to the code if I'm away from home and want to work on it, the apk that's there from time to time is really just for testing, it's been in a subfolder of the project and it will be like that for a while A definitive location would be the *releases* section of the repository. Jeremy asked before if I want to move the code to the TiddlyWiki repo which would be great. That needs some work on his part first, making the repo ready, moving TiddlyDesktop there and I don't know what else. There's also Marxsal's app that should not be forgotten. I hope that with moving code to the TiddlyWiki repo this could become more open for other developers and we can improve it together. The definitive location is not that settled as you see, but it will be in the releases section of the final repo > > I was keen to contribute earlier, and will once I have install it and > reviewed it. > > What BTC is saying about Termux API's sounds very interesting but I am not > sure exactly how this works, would you have Termux and The App installed, > and The App Enables issuing commands and thus tiddlywiki commands sent to > the Termux shell? > Termux can access Android features through its API which can be installed after installing Termux. There's a separate app and a package to install within Termux. Yes, I basically thought that when Termux is installed, the whole feature set can be made accessible within tiddlywiki with some commands. Further we could launch Termux commands and scripts, too. This would be a great extra without being necessary for the app to work. It would be a tiddlywiki plugin > > From a design Features point of View I love the idea of the key community > app that can open multiple tiddlywikis etc... this is a critical first > step. However I would be keen for individuals in the community to provide > the means by which to package a custom edition of TiddlyWiki within an app, > so for example if I built a TiddlyWiki that provides say decision support > tools, or an evaluation tool, or a dashboard, advanced notetaker I / We > could package this and distribute independent apps, ideally through the app > store. > Yes, that could be a way. I already mentioned a landing page that should open within the app. There should be a "new wiki" button which could make us select a premade "edition". But I don't know yet what's the best way to provide such editions, we'll see > > This would be using TiddlyWiki as an app development platform we are all > familiar with, deployed on the android platform would provide a rapid > application development and deployment path. This would really turbocharge > the mobile first applications whilst ensuring the final app is largely open > source with TiddlyWikis famous hack-ability. The community can stream line > this path and TiddlyWiki could be come a key method to deploy to multiple > platforms solutions, the advantage being everyone in the community > contributes to making this a fast path to app development, while retaining > all tiddlywikis other advantages and platform. > > The Question is then can these custom editions be sold in the app store > for a few dollars and provide a return to the edition developer and person > who packaged it as an App? > I've been thinking about this and I cannot say I'd have come to a point... This can be serious work and creators often end without any rewards when everything is done and can just be downloaded and installed I wouldn't really want to provide an interface within the app that brings users to the app store for selecting an edition The Open Source feeling of TiddlyWiki is a key point for me and I'd like to stick with the up- and downsides of it What I want to do is a similar approach like Termux does it: * Termux is open source * You can get all Termux apps without paying through the F-Droid app store * You pay something for certain Termux apps when installing through the google play store. That's like deciding to support the project by installing through the play store, paying to support it There are so many possible editions that I think they must somehow be managed by the creators themselves > I think some licencing standards should be published such as tiddlywiki > must be linked to, acknowledgements included, and details how to hack your > tiddlywiki made available in a custom app. > I don't know. TiddlyWiki is licensed, every single tiddlywiki html file is licensed. It's basically "do whatever you like to do with it, don't lie about the origins, don't promote your product using the original names of creators and contributors without permission, and always include the original license". I'd like to see what Jeremy thinks about this I can just say that I want to keep it simple. The simple approach is the html file that's the start of everything here. Users should know about that file. Users should know how to use a browser to download it and a file manager to move it and eventually organize it. I don't want to make the app a playschool teacher What I definitely want is being able to select a file on the system to start with > Regards > Tony > > Thank you Tony! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/897aa5d0-6615-43f2-90a9-a40759e4ebe7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
