Hi Chris,

I'm still planning my learning curve.
Jeremy mentioned CoucheDB. I've checked it out, i almost understand
it! It makes sense in the overall discussions of databases.

Will it be possible that TiddlyWeb will work with CoucheDB in the
future? If so, i'll start learning about it.


ALex



On Jun 4, 1:13 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" <chris.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 8:06 am, Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > before i start climbing a potentially steep learning curve;
>
> > Is this flavour of TiddlyWeb going to be the standard one?
>
> I don't intend for any particular store to be a standard. The core
> distribution of TiddlyWeb will always include the text store, and it
> will always behave reasonable well under usual circumstances. Other
> stores will be created for special circumstances, hopefully lots of
> them from lots of different people.
>
> > In conversation with Jeremy, I picked up that relational databases along
> > with hierarchies we not his favourite concepts. Being a TiddlyFan,
>
> I'm not a fan of RDBMS and hierarchies either but using one with
> TiddlyWeb does change TiddlyWeb's nature in any essential way, just
> changes its performance characteristics[1].
>
> > I am wondering (without any knowledge - which perhaps is a paradox?)  if I
> > should get into relational databases if TiddlyWeb and all things generally
> > are in the anti relational camp.
>
> Unless you have some driving desire or need to use the sqlstore with
> TiddlyWeb, I wouldn't bother. It exists for people who think they have
> a performance need that might be satisfied by such a thing, have a
> commitment to storing their data in a relational DB, or just like such
> things. If none of those things map to you, then I should worry too
> much, especially if you experience with hacking around in Python and
> installing Python based web services is short.
>
> If you have time and interest to learn, there's a lot to learn with
> this stuff. I've certainly learned a _great_ deal while working on
> TiddlyWeb.
>
> > Jeremy also put me on to Ted Nelson's zzSturucture [1].  I don't want to
> > become too focused on a particular tehcnology if it may be a sunk cost in
> > the near future.
>
> ZigZag is very cool, something I've always wanted to play with and
> never had the chance.
>
> > Basically I want to run the coolest TiddlyWeb, not the most corporate
> > friendly.
>
> There are bound to be far cooler TiddlyWeb stores in the future.
>
> [1] There is an untested assumption that a properly optimized and
> indexed RDBMS based store for TiddlyWeb will be faster and more
> scalable than some other options.
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