Hi Jeremy, what's the usual way of getting TW5? I've saved the page of [1] via FireFox (which brought an .htm) and that instance is not able to save (TiddlyFox sais
[Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.create]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://tiddlyfox/content/overlay.js :: TiddlyFox.saveFile :: line 96" data: no] on an attempt to save; I accepted TiddlyFox to save when the prompt appeared onload). Can't see any "download" button at [1] :) Best regards, Yakov. [1] five.tiddlywiki.com понедельник, 19 августа 2013 г., 16:57:42 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy Ruston написал: > > Hi Yakov > > Thanks for that. I've committed a first pass at a saver for AndTidWiki to > GitHub and five.tiddlywiki.com, I'd be very grateful if you could give it > a go. > > The code is here: > > > https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/1fd59a4bd312ead20251da80dd7bceb52f9c2bb0 > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Yakov <yakov.litv...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Hi Jeremy, >> >> четверг, 15 августа 2013 г., 21:34:50 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy Ruston >> написал: >>> >>> Hi Yakov >>> >>> checked that. AndTidWiki changes saveFile function: its test is the >>>> following >>>> >>>> function (fileUrl,content) { >>>> return window.twi.saveFile(fileUrl,**content); >>>> } >>>> >>>> so presumably to make TW5 work with ATW, one should use that >>>> window.twi.saveFile interface in the TW5 saving engine. >>>> >>> >>> That's great. There's two other things we need to figure out: >>> >>> 1) How AndTidWiki detects a TiddlyWiki document to determine if it >>> should inject it's code (it's possible that it injects it's code into all >>> HTML files, not just specifically TiddlyWikis). Right now TW5 is unlikely >>> to be detected as a TiddlyWiki file. >>> >>> I wouldn't expect ATW somehow detect a TW file. And my test somewhat >> confirms this: an html >> >> <html> >> <body> >> <p><a href="javascript:;" onclick=' >> alert(saveFile); >> '>let's try</a></p> >> </body> >> </html> >> >> shows the save text of saveFile onclick. >> >> 2) How the fileUrl parameter has been mangled and encoded by the time >>> that the saveFile() function is called. >>> >>> Well, the simplest idea for this is to create a function that copies the >> way the path is formed in TWc in saveChanges before it is passed to >> saveFile, isn't it? According to the current core code, that would be >> >> var originalPath = document.location.toString(); // not netscape, >> convertUriToUTF8 >> is not needed in ATW >> >> // Remove any location or query part of the URL >> var argPos = originalPath.indexOf("?"); >> if(argPos != -1) >> originalPath = originalPath.substr(0,argPos); >> var hashPos = originalPath.indexOf("#"); >> if(hashPos != -1) >> originalPath = originalPath.substr(0,hashPos); >> >> // Convert file://localhost/ to file:/// (is not needed in ATW) >> if(originalPath.indexOf("file://localhost/") == 0) >> originalPath = "file://" + originalPath.substr(16); >> >> // Convert to a native file format (in ATW, the third >> case takes place) >> //# "file:///x:/path/path/path..." - pc local file --> >> "x:\path\path\path..." >> //# "file://///server/share/path/path/path..." - FireFox pc network file >> --> "\\server\share\path\path\path..." >> //# "file:///path/path/path..." - mac/unix local file --> >> "/path/path/path..." >> //# "file://server/share/path/path/path..." - pc network file --> >> "\\server\share\path\path\path..." >> var localPath; >> if(originalPath.charAt(9) == ":") // pc local file >> localPath = unescape(originalPath.substr(8)).replace(new >> RegExp("/","g"),"\\"); >> else if(originalPath.indexOf("file://///") == 0) // FireFox pc network >> file >> localPath = "\\\\" + unescape(originalPath.substr(10)).replace(new >> RegExp("/","g"),"\\"); >> else if(originalPath.indexOf("file:///") == 0) // mac/unix local file >> localPath = unescape(originalPath.substr(7)); >> else if(originalPath.indexOf("file:/") == 0) // mac/unix local file >> localPath = unescape(originalPath.substr(5)); >> else // pc network file >> localPath = "\\\\" + unescape(originalPath.substr(7)).replace(new >> RegExp("/","g"),"\\"); >> >> return localPath; >> >> So probably this can be shortened further (cut unnecessary cases, >> localhost cut etc). >> >> A quick hack to determine the answer to (2) would be if you could modify >>> a TW classic file to insert "alert(localPath)" just before the call to >>> saveFile() in the saveMain() function. Then can you attempt a save under >>> AndTidWiki, and note the path that is alerted. Ideally, could you include a >>> character like "%" in the filename. >>> >> >> An example of originalPath is "file:///mnt/sdcard/...../atw test.html" >> and the corresponding localPath is "/mnt/sdcard/...../atw test.html". >> >> Best regards, >> Yakov. >> >> >>> I'm not sure how to deal with (1); if you can help with (2) I'll create >>> an exploratory TW5 saver for AndTidWiki and we can experiment further. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Jeremy >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Yakov. >>>> >>>> четверг, 15 августа 2013 г., 11:13:21 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy Ruston >>>> написал: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Yakov >>>>> >>>>> There are two ways that TiddlyWiki can interact with a server: >>>>> >>>>> 1. By saving the entire file to the server (this is how TiddlySpot >>>>> works, and the iPhone/iPad app TWEdit) >>>>> 2. By syncing changes to individual tiddlers to the server (this is >>>>> how TiddlyWeb/TiddlySpace works) >>>>> >>>>> I would expect AndTidWiki to work using the first technique. Typically >>>>> that would be done by injecting code that overrides the saveChanges >>>>> function, or the lower level saveFile/loadFile functions. >>>>> >>>>> You can see an example of the technique in the source to TiddlyFox. >>>>> This is the javascript file that TiddlyFox injects into TiddlyWiki >>>>> documents: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/****TiddlyFox/blob/master/content/**** >>>>> inject.js<https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/blob/master/content/inject.js> >>>>> >>>>> You can see the internal functions being overridden at lines 50 to 53. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Jeremy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Yakov <yakov.litv...@gmail.**com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> пятница, 2 августа 2013 г., 14:27:41 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy Ruston >>>>>> написал: >>>>>> >>>>>>> понедельник, 29 июля 2013 г., 15:43:02 UTC+4 пользователь Arlen >>>>>>>> Beiler написал: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Using TiddlyWiki5 which I just downloaded in AndTidWiki, I can >>>>>>>>> edit fine, but when I try to save it, I get an Internal Javascript >>>>>>>>> Error. >>>>>>>>> "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getItem' of null". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's unfortunate. Theoretically it's possible to "emulate" the >>>>>>>> saving engine of TWc in TW5 by a plugin, but that's far from my >>>>>>>> knowledge >>>>>>>> (I haven't researched TW5 core yet, and also don't quite understand >>>>>>>> how ATW >>>>>>>> and TW interact). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree that we should be able to make TW5 work with the existing >>>>>>> AndTidWiki app. I don't have an Android device for testing, and have >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> bad experiences in the past with the poor performance of the Android >>>>>>> emulator. So I'd be very grateful if anyone can help with information >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> the way that AndTidWiki works. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Jeremy, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not familiar with how TiddlyWiki interacts with any server side, >>>>>> so may be you can help me with that first.. >>>>>> >>>>>> the chain >>>>>> config.macros.saveChanges.**onCl**ick - saveChanges - saveMain - >>>>>> saveFile - ... >>>>>> doesn't seem to have anything that's "awaiting" server side, so >>>>>> >>>>>> my only guess on where server side can jump in is >>>>>> >>>>>> TiddlyWiki.prototype.**allTiddle**rsAsHtml - >>>>>> TiddlyWiki.prototype.getSaver - TW21Saver/some other saver - >>>>>> .externalize - >>>>>> .externalizeTiddler >>>>>> >>>>>> so is it true that usually server sides create their own SaverBase >>>>>> instance with their own externalizeTiddler method and change >>>>>> TiddlyWiki.prototype.getSaver and that's how they make TW use some new >>>>>> functionality to save? Or is it done somehow else? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Yakov. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Yakov >>>>>>>>> <yakov.litv...@gmail.**com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Leo, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> by the way, have you tried AndTidWiki? As for now, I only use >>>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki Classic on Android, so don't know if TW5 works with it. >>>>>>>>>> As a >>>>>>>>>> side note: with AndTidWiki, I only have to add >>>>>>>>>> ToggleLeft/RightSidebar [1], >>>>>>>>>> add a line-menu on top by changing PageTemplate and a few CSS >>>>>>>>>> adjustments, >>>>>>>>>> while FireFox needs some more work on styles (in fact, I need to >>>>>>>>>> create a >>>>>>>>>> plugin which will apply different styles depending on what "browser" >>>>>>>>>> opened >>>>>>>>>> TW). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> Yakov. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] http://tiddlytools.com/#**Toggle******RightSidebar%** >>>>>>>>>> 20ToggleLeftSideb******ar<http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> вторник, 16 июля 2013 г., 8:54:26 UTC+4 пользователь Leo Staley >>>>>>>>>> написал: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Eric! I didn't know how to do that from my Android. >>>>>>>>>>> Firefox didn't install it when I clicked on it like I thought it >>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>> have. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> After downloading it with another browser (because firefox >>>>>>>>>>> didn't let me "save link" on long-press) and opening the file using >>>>>>>>>>> firefox, I was able to install it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sadly though, no "save" button appears under the tools menu. The >>>>>>>>>>> button at the top, to download a copy of the page worked once, but >>>>>>>>>>> i'm >>>>>>>>>>> having trouble doing it again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, when i create a new tiddler, I first have to >>>>>>>>>>> delete the existing text in both the title and the main text area, >>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> takes some time with an android keyboard. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Eric, How compatible are most of the items on TiddlyTools with >>>>>>>>>>> Tiddly5? Is development still continuing with the current edition >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> Tiddlywiki, and if so, in what Capacity? Forgive me for being such >>>>>>>>>>> a noob. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 15, 2013 9:15:47 PM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 15, 2013 9:13:16 PM UTC-7, Leo Staley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> More significantly, There was no way to save any changes I >>>>>>>>>>>>> made. Took me a while to realize that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As Jeremy noted in his previous post: >>>>>>>>>>>> "... install TiddlyFox to save changes locally on the device >>>>>>>>>>>> (https://github.com/TiddlyWiki****** >>>>>>>>>>>> /TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfo******x.xpi<https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfox.xpi> >>>>>>>>>>>> )." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy, >>>>>>>>>>>> -e >>>>>>>>>>>> Eric Shulman >>>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY "TIP JAR"... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#D******onations<http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services... >>>>>>>>>>>> Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#C******ontact<http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jeremy Ruston >>>>> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeremy Ruston >>> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com >>> >> > > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com <javascript:> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. 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