In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chuck Harris writes: Sorry, incoming rant:
>Especially when you consider the amount of lead that will enter >the environment when a single automotive battery (which are not >subject to RoHS, by the way) is improperly dumped. Automotive batteries are subject to different and quite tough regulations for recycling here in europe, and the recycling frequency was up in the 99.8% range last I heard. The main problem which RoHS tries to solve is that people throw electronics in the household waste, which is often incinerated here in Europe. People tend to forget that RoHS is about more than lead, it's also about Cadmium, Mercury, Chromium IV, PBB and PDBE, most of which are significantly more harmful than metalic lead. Because of the soldering issues, there exists what is called the "RoHS5" excemtion where lead permitted in solder for hi-rel and wide-temperature equipment. As to the solder issues, the sad fact is that the average age of consumer electronics these days is less than 3 years and that more than 10% of it fails within the first two years. Therefore tin-whiskers and similar is mostly an academic issue in consumer electronics: it's so shitty quality already that it doesn't make a measurable difference on reliability. (I'm told that Bang&Olufsen has spent twice as much money on RoHS research as Sony). Now, about how it came about... Before RoHS was ratified, the EC had tried to negotiate voluntary reductions and eliminations of harmful substances, with the electronics industry, for most of a decade, but got nowhere because the industry didn't take it seriously, and gambled that the EC wouldn't either. After RoHS was ratified, the industry first tried getting it repealed, while whining loudly. When that failed, the resorted to just whining, and then finally, when the deadlined loomed, they started actually working the issues. If "corporate responsibility" meant anything besides "make money for the shareholders", then RoHS would never have happened: The electronics industry would have eliminated lead at the same time it was eliminated from the gasoline. As a consumer and a parent, I applaud RoHS, and with my electronics hat on, I detest the industry which has been so hell bent on not taking the clue for so many years. Finally I'll cordially remind you gentlemen that there were similar dire predictions when gasoline additives where changed from alcohols to ethyl-lead and again when ethyl-lead was banned. Regardless, the world spins unabated and cars still clog the arteries of all major cities. Poul-Henning (Who will use SnPb solder until he runs out, probably 10 years from now.) PS: There is a companion regulation to RoHS called WEEE - Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment, which requires consumer electronics to be recylable and recyled. http://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/weee_index.htm -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts