Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:09:00 +0100
From: Magnus Danielson <mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Choke Ring Pictures
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
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Bob Camp wrote:
 Hi

Wedding cake pans normally come in 1" increments and are either 2" or 3" deep. Sets are 2" increments on the diameter:

 http://cooksdream.com/store/wedding-round.html


http://www.hubert.com/store/products.asp?CAWELAID=126235277&A=SB%2E58369%2E10738&Dn=0&An=966+966&Au=Presentation+Id&Ntt=10738&N=966+966&src=chanadv&Ntx=mode+matchall&D=10738&Ntk=SKU

 The height would be fairly easy to adjust. The diameter not so much so.

Looks like 2 and 2.5" are typical dimensions for the depth. ~1" looks pretty typical for the width. A 2" deep / 2" diameter step set looks like it would do a pretty good job . It won't be accurate enough to be perfect. Without a 3D EM program it would be tough to figure out just what the errors would do to you.

With 2.5" depth and 14", 12", 10", 8" and 6" diameter pans you are not
completely in a different world from some antennas:

http://facility.unavco.org/project_support/permanent/equipment/antennas/ant_cals.html

Evaluating the performance may be a different thing.

One thing to care about is the leakage between the pans if you just stick them inside each other.

I'd be tempted to use EMI gaskets between the pans, except that contact will soon be lost as the aluminum grows a nice oxide layer. But it may not be necessary to make DC electrical contact, as the capacitance between the metal layers may suffice to act as a short at 1.5 GHz. A thin sheet of mylar (or a heavy anodization layer) between would help this along, by increasing the capacitance.

Joe Gwinn

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