Hi

An R-390A (or an not an A) has a lot of examples of how to do anti-backlash 
gear trains. Pretty tough to do on a one up fab from scratch in the basement 
basis though. 

Lots easier to kludge in a low capacitance tuning diode .....

Bob


On May 2, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote:

> Bob Camp wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> A coupe of issues with mechanical servo tuning:
>> 
>> 1) It wears out the tuning capacitor pretty fast. They are designed for a 
>> limited number of adjustments. They loosen up with a lot of tuning and this 
>> degrades their stability.
>> 
>> 2) It would be much easier to tear apart the mechanical tune OCXO and put in 
>> a tuning diode than to rig a thermally isolated high resolution servo stepper
>> 
>> 3) Mechanical tune arrangements normally  have backlash. That's not an issue 
>> as long as the servo only goes one way. It becomes a real pain to correct 
>> for each time you reverse direction.
>>   
> One solution to which is to add (in addition to the servo motor) a torque 
> motor to preload the gear train so that the same flank of each gear tooth is 
> in contact for both directions of rotation. Zero backlash drive reduction 
> systems are also available at some considerable cost.
> 
>> 4) Making a mechanical setup with a minimum step below 1 ppt is going to be 
>> more than just a simple stepper. A gear chain based system will be pretty 
>> exciting to work up. Backlash in the gears will add to what ever you have in 
>> the tune it's self.
>> 
>> 5) The tuning on the OCXO may not be monotonic. That's especially true if 
>> you do indeed run the trimmer at a higher resolution than a normal human 
>> could adjust it. Tuning reversals tend to drive servo loops a bit crazy.
>> 
>> None of that says that it can't be done. All it says is that it will be hard 
>> to do well.
>> 
>> What kind of accuracy are you trying to obtain?
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>>   
> Bruce
> 
>> On May 2, 2010, at 3:18 PM, ch...@yipyap.com wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> That is a really cool picture.
>>> 
>>> Can I be like you when I grow up?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've figured out which of these silvered modules
>>> in this Schomandl sig gen is the oscillator (the one that
>>> got warm).  I have to figure out if it is voltage adjustable
>>> in some way.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone use mechanical adjustment with a servo,
>>> gear train and microcontroller?
>>> 
>>> I did hear all of those good advisers telling me to
>>> buy the Thunderbolt.  But I already have these pieces
>>> so...
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Chris
>>> w0ep
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Niels Lueddecke wrote:
>>> 
>>>     
>>>> You see? Don't do it, don't even think about starting.
>>>> Go buy a trimble thunderbolt, it will save you LOTS of time!
>>>> http://www.dulli.org/pics/20100502%20-%20Clock.jpg
>>>>       
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