Hi Jeff,
Understood, having worked with cables of all sorts I always found that word 
"straight through" to be a little tricky.

Bjorn asked if this was my first GPSDO, the answer is yes. As far as comparison standards, I have an E1938, which I have compared to a HP3586C. That of course (using the counter) is only good to 10E8. The 3801 is putting out 10MHz, the only question is the accuracy. Compared to the E1938, it was off 1 cycle every 3-4 seconds (lissajous, 1 rotation every 3-4 sec). That should put it around 3E-8, but of course I still don't have any traceability beyond 10E-8.

I will try that program you suggested, but again, the voltages I'm getting are 
not right.

Bob

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Bob,
Serial ports have always been tough to get working right.
I guess I shouldn't call a serial cable, a straight cable.
I just want to differentiate it, from a null modem cable.

I made up my own cables when I got my Z3805A's
9pin on computer end and 25 pin on 3805
I wired 2-2, 3-3, and 5-7 and it worked.

Their is also a program called GPS-dos2 that you can download from http://www.realhamradio.com/gps-satstat-software.htm
It runs thru all baud rates, trying to communicat with the 38xx
You could give that a try.

Jeff

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Jeff,
A plain serial cable will have 2&3 swapped, a "straight through" is 2-2 and 3-3. There were a lot of DB25 to DB25 that were NOT serial cables, they were just 25 pin cable using DB9.

Bob


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Hook" <jeffh...@comcast.net>
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Receive  data is pin 2 on DB9 and 3 on DB25
Transmit data is Pin 3 on DB9 and 2 on DB25
A straight thru cable with DB9 on one end and DB25 on the other will have pins 
2 and three crossed
A null modem cable, that is required for a Z3805A, will be pin 2 to pin 2 and 
pin 3 to pin 3

Jeff
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----- Original Message ----
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Bob
My 3805 cables look like this

DB9 DB25
2 2
3 3
5 7
(Null Modem)

Jeff

<snip>

straight cable is 2 to 2 to 3 to 3

null modem would be

2 3
3 2

normal usage would be:

terminal (straight cable) modem (phone line) modem (straight cable) computer
computer (straight cable) modem (phone line) modem (straight cable) computer

or if no modems :

terminal (null modem) computer

As has been mentioned many exceptions to the rule.

Stanley

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