On 08/09/2010 11:54 PM, Dr. Frank Stellmach wrote:
Bonsoir Loïc,

and congratulations for your new, nice device.

You should order the T.Bolt from fluke.l on e...y, standard easy kit
with power supply and antenna, just working fine,
The LCD monitor is also quite handy. You may also order an LPRO 101 Rb
standard from him, so you have always a very stable reference for a low
price.

Alternatively, you may get a receiver for the German DCF77 signal (I can
see the transmitter every day from my work place), but its a real pain
for such high precision TICs.


I've got the predecessor of the 53132A, i.e. the 5335A - uses a similar
time interpolation circuitry with 1ns LSD / 2ns resolution (jitter),
giving 9 digits/sec.

If you examine your TIC/counter, could you please verify the '132A
counter specs, saying 12digits /sec, although LSD is 150ps, RMS
resolution 300ps, which should give 10 digits/sec only.

(My 5370B resolves 11digits/sec , but has 20ps LSD and 35ps RMS
resolution.)

I think the agilent people are cheating a little bit (compared to former
HP).

Uhm... well, sort off...

For the older counters, the performance mapping is fairly straight-forward, but for the 53131A/53132A they follow the track laid down by J.J. Snyder in his 1980/1981 articles showing how averaging several measurements affects noise and this can be used to significantly improve the frequency/period readings, but it useless for TI readings for Allan dev style of measurements.

So, comparing measurements like you just did id not a representative means of comparision. The hardware noise and resolution is aided by a software algorithm. It's not cheating for their intended use, but it can fool you if you don't know what you are looking at.

This has been discussed extensively in history several times, mostly in relationship to Allan deviation measurements, where the approach gives incorrect values due to the pre-filtering it does.

Cheers,
Magnus

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