On Sep 10, 2010, at 7:44 PM, J. L. Trantham, M. D. wrote:

> I guess I am thinking about this from a user perspective rather than an
> engineering design and implementation perspective.  If the requirement is
> aircraft separation, LORAN should be adequate for that, if it was still up.
> You would only have to transmit your position and altitude to a ground
> receiving station that then would relay it to the Center Controllers to be
> displayed on a map along with all the other aircraft.

What you are talking about here is already implemented in ADS-B which is 
currently being fielded in the US. ADS-B stands for automatic dependent 
surveillance - broadcast. It is dependent in the sense that the aircraft tells 
you where it thinks it is. If the aircraft is mistaken or lying you have a 
problem, although there are ways of validating a report if heard by multiple 
ground stations.

> However, it seems they want to do this by use of an upside down but
> otherwise 'GPS like method', i.e., the 'satellites' are fixed to
> mountaintops and the aircraft still moves.

Mathematically it is similar, both using multilateration, determining position 
from knowing the comparative difference in distance between the unknown 
position and multiple known points. Multilateration, like radar, is an 
independent surveillance method. The aircraft position is calculated by means 
external to the aircraft itself. You know where the aircraft is, even if the 
aircraft doesn't.
 
> That being the case, what about a fixed, land-line, connection for every
> mountaintop to a central location that broadcasts the time signal, calibrate
> the system using GPS then rely on the central ground station to keep it
> running?

As mentioned by others, that can be difficult to do while maintaining the 
timing tolerances necessary for accurate position determination.

Ralph
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