On 09/11/2010 05:29 PM, jimlux wrote:
If it's far enough in the future.. Hg ion traps have a lot of
potential.. smaller, lower power, etc. than Cs

Commercial availability is somewhat limited.

that's for sure.. I think all the Hg ion traps are still laboratory
curiosities.. but, 10 years from now?

Sure, but that assumes his target deployment is 10 years ahead.

A problem with Hg ion traps
would be ROHS, unless they can be exempted or assumed to be within the
telco exempt, which would be a legal twist on the commercialisation
aspect.

And Cs or Rb don't have the same sorts of issues?

No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restriction_of_Hazardous_Substances_Directive

Another aspect I have been wondering about is the trap hold-length, I
think I recall that there was some issues relating to that...

I think, though, that some sort of self calibrating array using the
target of interest is a better scheme.. multiple receivers at each site
separated by some distance. Getting milliradian angular resolution is a
piece of cake.

That moves the expense, and I don't think the available receivers have
that option. They intend the spatial separation to be in kms and not m.

I was thinking about changing the problem somewhat.

Yes, but now you shifted from "time-support system of transciever boxes" to modifications of the boxes themselves or at least use multiple boxes for angle determination only (wasting much of the rest of the receiver structure).

You'd have your
stations separated by km, but each station has several receivers and can
compare the phase of the signals. You can solve for range rate (Doppler)
and angle (delta phase), and that can go into your position solution.
(this is how we navigate spacecraft, after all, and it's also used for a
variety of target tracking systems)

Yes, yes... I understood perfectly what you where describing and no doubt such a hint would be most useful, but it may not be applicable to his problem. The question is really if he has complete boxes to build with or can alter their design. Additional delta-channels is best handled in a combined receiver, as being done in many other similar heading receivers... such as GPS receivers with angular orientation such as used in airplanes and on ships.

Cheers,
Magnus

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