Hi

Sounds like it's time to get a better counter

Bob


On Nov 20, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote:

> Fellow time-nuts,
> 
> Björn and I have been having some fun during our get-together in his basement 
> time-lab. I pulled with me some gear (CNT-90 and SR620) for him to play with, 
> so a good warmup exercise was to measure the offset between the PPS and the 
> clock output (5 MHz or 10 MHz).
> 
> The results was uhm... spread out... so we felt like sending you guys a 
> report.
> 
> First out was a RAPCO 1804M which has a HCD 66 SC 5 MHz oven diciplined by an 
> old Trimble SV6+ (?) GPS receiver. We popped the lid for other purposes... :) 
> It had the 5 MHz rising edge 32,17 ns behind the PPS rising edge, with 100 ps 
> RMS jitter. Quite noticeable offset but fair jitter.
> 
> The good old RAPCO was jumperable to be on "OSC" or "GPS" on the mysterious 
> jumper LK9 and it was stuck hard on the "OSC" setting, but some physical 
> exercise later we got it into GPS setting and it had a about 200 ns peak to 
> peak sawtooth... nice and pedagogical exercise.
> 
> We then had a look at the Brandywine GPS-4 (mine on loan to Björn) and found 
> it had fairly nice numbers... until we discovered it has a periodically 
> reoccuring glitch of unknown system-source.
> 
> Natually we hooked in to Björns Thunderbolt and found the offset so tight 
> that we ran into trigger-problems, but offsetting the clock by about 8 ns of 
> coax cable we had a about 4 ns in average and 6 ns peak-to-peak. The PPS thus 
> jumped between two distinct offsets with their respective gaussian 
> distribution around them. Not all that neat, and the RAPCO was the quietest 
> in this shoot-out.
> 
> Over and out,
> Magnus and Björn
> 
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