The problem is: multiple users in a wide area application, where manual reset of the "new" time is required - and some don't bother..

I have to process CCTV images from a wide range of separate, individual organisations, over whom I have no control. Some of them do a reset, others do not. Twice per year a lot of my time is wasted sorting out who has gone to DST (or vice versa) and who hasn't. Just as some users realise their system time is out by one hour, it's the time of year to change again! Automatic resets are the answer, but the smaller cheap-skate organisations will not spend the money.

As soon as this illogical twice-yearly fiasco is ended, the better.
Daylight Saving Time is a misnomer anyway - it's really Daylight Shifting Time. If you want more daylight, get out of bed earlier. Hate DST, keep UTC Universal.

Ron The One


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Palfreyman" <jim77...@gmail.com> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:19 AM
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Mr HeathKid,

What is your reason for "hating dst". The changeover is a pain - but after
that, what is the problem?

Jim


On 22 July 2011 14:23, Heathkid <heath...@heathkid.com> wrote:

I live at 39° 57' 46" N and I absolutely HATE DST!  Yes, Indiana... we
haven't had DST for too long.  It's bad and I hope some day we go back to
not having it.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Kimberley" <
r...@timing-consultants.com>
To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:57 PM

Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC


 My earlier reply about flexible working practices still holds. Why not
just
move with the seasons. Before clocks, I'm sure that's what we did - we got up when it was light, and went to bed when it was dark. The bit in between
just happens to be elastic...

I live at 53 degrees North in the UK by the way.

Rob K

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@**febo.com<time-nuts-boun...@febo.com>]
On
Behalf Of Jim Palfreyman
Sent: 19 July 2011 1:58 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC

Far out. I've just read so many logical fallacies and government
conspiracies I'm embarrassed for this high quality list. Let's inject some
facts here.

I live at 43 degrees south. At the winter solstice (June 21) the sun rises
at 7:41 and sets at 16:43.

At the summer solstice (December 21) the sun rises (no DST) at 04:28 and
sets at 19:49.

Sunrise at 04:28 is ridiculous. Including twilight it starts getting light
at 3:30. Switch to DST and sunrise moves to 05:28 and sets at 20:49. Much
more reasonable. Nice summer evenings too.

We have DST for 6 months of the year and wouldn't swap it for anything.

I understand it's different the closer to the equator you are, but for mid
latitudes it really works.

Jim




On Tuesday, 19 July 2011, Thomas A Frank <ka2...@cox.net> wrote:

BLOCK: This may be kind of an urban legend, but I thought I had heard

that one of the backers behind extending Daylight Saving Time into the
beginning of November was the candy industry, and it all had to do with
Halloween.


Mr. DOWNING: This is no kind of legend. This is the truth. For 25
years,

candy-makers have wanted to get trick-or-treat covered by Daylight
Saving,
figuring that if children have an extra hour of daylight, they'll collect
more candy. In fact, they went so far during the 1985 hearings on Daylight
Saving as to put candy pumpkins on the seat of every senator, hoping to
win
a little favor.



I would say it backfired.

At least here in Rhode Island, the extra daylight resulted in the

compression of the trick or treating schedule, since all the little
goblins
and ghouls wanted to go out after dark (to better scare the homeowners and
enjoy their glow in the dark costumes), but they also were expected home
by
8pm (local).


Net result is less candy given out.

At least that has been my experience.

Proving you shouldn't tamper with time. Measure yes, tamper, no. :-)

Tom Frank, KA2CDK



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