I think you have to define "better," though. A GPSDRbO will have better holdover performance (e.g., stability when the GPS signal goes away) than one using an OCXO, but the OCXO is quite likely to have better short term stability than the Rb.

If holdover isn't an issue, you need to find the "Allan Intercept Point" (term stolen from David Mills and NTP) to see where the GPS and oscillator ADEV curves cross over. That will tell you how long a loop time constant you want, and will let you look at the combined ADEV for each type of oscillator. You may find that a decent OCXO gives better performance overall than an Rb.

John
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On 1/12/2012 10:37 AM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote:
with the good long term performance of Rb's and the presently available
5680A for $ 40 a Shera Type controller will make available to any one on the
list a reference better than a Tbolt for less money than a Tbolt. Repeating
my  self I would also add a "clean up" OCXO in order to get the very best.
Bert Kehren


In a message dated 1/12/2012 8:34:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jlt...@att.net writes:

David,

I have been following discussions on the list about a  GPSDRbO for a year or
so.  Some interesting challenges and probably  best implemented in a
'stable'
environment rather than portable operation  but as best I can tell, it would
require a very stable and good antenna  location, stable and clean power,
and
I was thinking of using something  like an LPRO-101 with an Ext C Field
input, a Shera type controller, and a  GPS timing receiver, though, I
suspect
there are likely to be some  'multi-tasking' receivers out there that will
look at several sources  including GPS, GLOSNASS, etc.

While the project might be fun, for  portable work, it is likely far easier
and probably just as good (almost),  to use a Tbolt.

In any event, something to think about for the  future.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From:  time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of  David
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:12 PM
To: Discussion of  precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A  Mechanical Question


How would a GPSDRbO work?  Phase lock the  DDS output to the GPS? Phase lock
a VCXO to the GPS and then phase lock to  the RbO on loss of GPS lock?

On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:55:58 -0600, "J. L.  Trantham"<jlt...@att.net>
wrote:

Bill, Brian, Bill, and  Peter,

Thanks for the info.  All I need now is a 'project'  to incorporate the
unit into.

In the back of my mind, I  have the thought of a 'box' that will be
battery powered or 110 VAC  powered (perhaps with an internal SLA
battery) and include a GPSDO and  Rb unit (possibly a GPSDRbO) for the
purpose of a 'reference' for  portable operation in the microwave
regions.

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