Joe, >> > A possible mechanism occurs to me. High-precision GPS is >> very vulnerable >> > to multipath errors. A loos connector will have a >> significant reflection. >> > The reflected energy will propagate backwards, and be reflected off >> the >> > transmitter output discontinuity, the twice-reflected energy >> propagating >> > back to the receiver. The original and the triple-transit >> echo will add >> > coherently (for the modulation, not the photons) in the >> receiver. This >> > is >> > a perfect multipath scenario. How long must the cable be? >> Depends on the >> > relative strength of main signal and triple-transit echo. >> >> > Joe Gwinn >> >> Joe, >> >> High precision GPS receivers use various correlator schemes that try to >> minimize multipath. "Normal" GPS receivers are more vulnerable than >> geodetic quality receivers. >> >> http://webone.novatel.ca/assets/Documents/Papers/PAC.pdf > > You are of course correct, but timing receivers may not go to such lengths > are are needed for geodetic receivers. A lot of the magic of geodetic > receivers is in the choke-ring antenna, which ignores signals arriving > from > too low an angle above the horizon. > > In the Neutrino case, the multipath is built into the cable between > antenna > and receiver, so the antenna cannot help. But I will read the article, > which looks interesting. Wonder if it would solve such a triple-transit > echo problem. > > Joe
I am not discussing antenna multipath attenuation. That is a separate topic. Look at figure 12 in the Novatel paper - noting for the y-axis - that 1 C/A chip length is about 300 meters. Here is an article from the Ashtech/JPS/JNS/Topcon-family. http://tinyurl.com/7w9wl4p Overview results are seen in figure 5. Timing receivers used by time-labs to compare Cs are usually geodetic receivers with the option to lock the internal clock to external 10MHz/1PPS signals coming from the Cs. My point is that good receivers attenuate multipath fairly well. Is it known which GPS receiver type was used in the Neutrino experiment? -- Björn _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.