On 5/9/12 10:04 PM, Attila Kinali wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2012 18:11:22 -0700
Jim Lux<jim...@earthlink.net>  wrote:


I'm not so sure about that, in general.  (the access to the public, not
the tax funding)..  A lot of universities have put badge readers on a
lot of areas that one might think are totally public access.  Now, they
might be wide open during the middle of the day, but at some point, you
have to badge in to get access (so that my daughter studying at 3AM
doesn't meet up with weirdness, probably).

Ok.. The universtities i know here in Europe are pretty much open.
During the day there are usually no entrance controls, only for special
areas like the chemistry labs with the dangerous stuff (but not the
chemistry building itself).

Of course, they lock the doors in the evening and you need a badge
or a key to get in afterwards. But it's obvious why you don't want
to have random people being able to walk in during the night...

Anyways.. it's getting OT again...

I just wanted to say that it's possible to get access to a lot of
scientific publications using the university library. Which, at least
here in Europe, have usually also subscriptions for people who are
not enroled (in Switerland, they are for free, but you have to get
a card/badge).



Because folks DO want to get those papers.. I talked to my daughter tonight..

At Johns Hopkins (probably typical of big uni in a urban area)...

during the day, you have to show some sort of ID to get in (not college ID, just some sort of ID), at night, uni ID swiped in the badge reader.

Some journals are unrestricted, others you need to have a JHU id to get access to. Depends on the journal. social science (unlikely to be of extreme interest to time-nuts, unless looking up behavior of mailing lists) are more likely to be in the "must be staff/student" bucket. hard science technical journals are more wide open.

If you want to print, you need to have the special debit card (which anyone can buy and load with cash)


In the U.S., local municipal/county libraries can usually request bound journals from other libraries for free (or nominal charge). That probably works pretty well for things in the greater than 10 but less than 30 years old. Newer stuff is online, and there aren't any bound copies. older stuff has been scrapped to save space.







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