Le 4 juin 2012 à 05:43, David I. Emery a écrit :

> On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 09:20:59AM -0700, J. Forster wrote:
>> Is there any indication the carriers of WWVB and MSF are locked together?
>> 
>> -John
>> 
>> =================
> 
>       Given it's only 60 KHz and certainly somewhere north of parts in
> 10^13 and probably  down to 10^14 or 10^15 the distinction kinda escapes
> one.
> 
>       They may not be locked to each other, but are so close in
> frequency that relative drift would be AWFULLY slow... especially if its
> more like 10^15 from primary maser standards...
> 
>       There are only 5.184 * 10^9 cycles of 60 KHz  in a day after
> all... and it takes a while for a error of a few parts in 10^15 to
> pile up to one whole cycle...
> 
 
>From the doc on NIST and NPL sites, we are not in maser country here. The 
>transmitters frequencies are disciplined by cesium standards.  For WWVB the 
>frequency is kept to a few parts in 10^13 ( NIST Special Publication 423) and 
>for MSF at 2 parts in 10^12 and are both sync'd to UTC(k).  As tvb points out, 
>the the received signal will be phase shifted according to TOD and atmospheric 
>conditions. The guys at NPL monitor(ed) the MSF signal to provide(ed) data for 
>anyone wanting to use it for calibration in monthly bulletins of performance. 
>I expect NIST do the same for WWVB but have been able to find a ref. Check out 
><http://npl.co.uk/upload/pdf/user_guide_bullitins.pdf> and the last bulletin 
>that the site links point to , for april 2011, 
><http://resource.npl.co.uk/time/bulletins/msf/msfbul_04_2011.pdf>. What is 
>interesting from the MSF data is that the phase offsets are quite significant 
>where they are received in what I expect are optimal conditions at midday when 
>ionospheric effects are minimal.  I don't know what happened to latter issues 
>if any.   Did they abandon them?

> 

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