Hi …. and the same cockroach approach is by far the easier way to take out a cell system.
Bob On Jul 15, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:48 AM, J. Forster <j...@quikus.com> wrote: >> Rather than messing with WWVB, some LORAN-C should be put back on the air. >> It is essentially impossible to jam, unlike GPS or WWVB. >> >> I could easily see it with a small (1') loop and a 'scope. >> >> YMMV, >> >> -John >> >> ================== >> >> >> >>> Perry you mean like the 10' X 10' loop I put up? >>> It has about 800 ft of wire. >>> Brang the daytime signal fro 30 uv to an easy 60 +. >>> Compared to a 2.5 ft loop. >>> Yes higher power would be good. >>> Regards >>> paul >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Perry Sandeen <sandee...@yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> GM List, >>>> >>>> What has not been mentioned so far is national security needs of the >>>> democratic nations of the world for uninterrupted accurate >>>> time/frequency >>>> information that is not subject to interference or destruction by those >>>> nations diametrically opposed to personal freedom. >>>> >>>> The United States GPS system is an unparalleled success providing >>>> inexpensive time and frequency standards worldwide and it is relied on >>>> for >>>> innumerable critical tasks. >>>> >>>> But it requires using satellites. They are subject to destruction or >>>> degradation from the ground over the sovereign territory by those rouge >>>> states that would be so inclined. The ability to destroy a satellite >>>> from >>>> the earth has already ben demonstrated by one nation. There are >>>> numerous >>>> reports of shall we say *Malicious Tinkering* on other satellites. >>>> >>>> Setting aside the enormous expense, technical difficulties such as the >>>> need for sophisticated and extremely limited amount of rocket launches >>>> available make the system unsustainable to GPS satellites continued >>>> destruction or degradation from a land based source. > > > If you are worried about the system surviving an attack, a Loran > system can be taken out by something as un-sophisticated as just one > car bomb. One guy working along could do it. Taking out a > satellite at 400 miles up is a MUCH harder problem. > > Don't say people in the government don't think about this. One > solution being worked is very small satellites. What can yo pack in a > one cubic foot box? What if you could launch 100 such boxes from a > solid fueled rocked based in a silo (like an ICBM that can be launched > on a VERY short count down) Othr research ares are "mesh networks" > That might address the question of "what could you do with 100,000 > iPhones in orbit. > > If you are worried about security and jamming the solution is NOT a > powerful, wide area broadcast. No you use a great number of tiny > overlapping cells combined with spread spectrum and strong encryption > and you control it with a some kind of self organizing mesh network, > not a top-down control system. What this does is mimic nature. > Think about rats and cockroaches > > > > > Chris Albertson > Redondo Beach, California > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
