It all works in UPS's favor. Larger, more robust packaging adds to weight and dimensional charges. The incentives are all there for them to be as rough as they can get away with. Why take extra care and go slower when you just blame the customer, and win by getting more money in the process? I appreciate the problem of improperly packaged goods, just pointing out the financial incentive angle. I once sold a receiver and shipped it UPS. I used multiple wraps of heavy bubble wrap in a box, then that weird military cushioning which is like scouring pads, inside a double walled outer box. You could drop this thing 20 feet. But it didn't survive being run over by a truck! Tire marks and all. UPS denied the claim because the inside box was previously used, even though not shipped, it had labels from my company, and they defined that as used. So yeah I got myself a bad attitude towards them. Peter Sep 11, 2012 05:15:48 PM, jwsm...@jwsss.com wrote:
On 9/11/2012 8:37 AM, Gregory Muir wrote: > If you have a chance, you should visit one of the UPS shipping test labs where customers are supposed to take their prototype packaging to have it tested to see if it will stand up to the rigors of UPS shipping. Your jaw will drop when you see what they put the packages through. > > Greg I worked on a project for MPI which was the tape division of Control Data on the Sentinel tape drive, which was an 8" form factor quarter inch cartridge drive. About the size of an 8" floppy. Part of the entire engineering project which had to pass successfully as much as moving tape and transferring data was a mandatory 3 point UPS test. You had to send the package out of Valley Forge, Pa, to the Bay area, to Atlanta, and back to Valley Forge, and at the end of the trip pass what they called DVT. It took them two tries to get the packaging to survive the UPS test. They had a very nice, easy to open but rugged structure inside with braces on parts that had to be removed before operation (motor was heavy enough to have broken on one pass). and then it was suspended in a hard foam floating arrangement in an outer tri wall box. They really wanted you to save the container if you had to reship It. Jim _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.