Hi Marco maybe you should run a web site with daily measurements and shame them into doing it properly ( your "traceable to NIST" should raise some hackles !!) I took me four months to get a short term wander on 198kHz looked at a few years ago. I was cured when the synth finally failed completely ! The private contractor did not have at the time any way of measuring it off-air, despite taking the NPL money for running it. :-))

Alan
G3NYK

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco IK1ODO -2" <ik1...@spin-it.com> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Italian Time Station on 10 MHz ?



For what I know they have an experimental license by the Telecom authority, and operate from Tuscany near Viareggio since two or three years. The license has been given on the basis that there are no more HF time and frequency signals operating in Europe. When I knew about it I offered to donate a rubidium standard, to have it at least on the right frequency. I had no answers... they continue to radiate a worthless off-frequency signal (IMHO). May be it is a case of "beaconitis" :-) (a disease that mandates to activate beacons). On a similar base, I know of an attempt to restore and put in operation the old transmitter of IBF (5 MHz, "Istituto Nazionale di Elettrotecnica", now INRIM, the national standard keepers). That was a custom built 5 kW (carrier) Continental broadcasting TX. It has been found in the underground storage of INRIM, stripped of power and modulation transformers, and should be rebuilt to operate at only 1 kW carrier on the original 5 MHz frequency (Rb or GPS controlled!). The plans are to operate it from the original place on the hills near Torino, by remote control, as a museum and educative item. I offered my workshop to work on it, I hope that the project may go on to again hear "IBF, IBF, IBF, standard time and frequency signals from the National Electrotechnical Institute, Turin, Italy" from minutes 45 to 60 on 5 MHz ;-)

Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF


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