Bob, I am shocked! Are you Trolling?!

To Quote Stuart Cobb, posted to this very list on 29th May, 2013:
>>>> The Z3815A I got from China was in a different case, just two bent pieces 
>>>> of sheet aluminum.  The case _looks_ official, with the right label on the 
>>>> front and silkscreen on the back.  But the board inside had a lot more 
>>>> crud and corrosion than the nice clean case did, and parts of the plastic 
>>>> edge connector on the back of the board were broken.  Worst of all, the 
>>>> coaxial cable from the antenna connector ended in a one-inch flying lead 
>>>> soldered to the board.  The "shield" of the coax cable ended in another 
>>>> flying lead, soldered to ground somewhere else.  (Any RF engineers reading 
>>>> this are probably cringing now.)  I'm pretty sure that no one at HP 
>>>> designed or approved that connection.  Once I saw it, I understood why the 
>>>> GPS receiver appeared to be "deaf."  Even connected to a very good 
>>>> antenna, it never saw more than 4 satellites, and even those had weak 
>>>> signals.

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf 
Of Bob Camp
Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:10 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A pinout

Hi

Well if the Z3815 boxes are all fakes, they did a *really* good job on making 
up all the HP logo's and HP stickers. They even faked the right date codes for 
the add on stickers. They also did a very nice job with the custom cables that 
plug directly into everything. 

Bob 

On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Mark C. Stephens <ma...@non-stop.com.au> wrote:

> Magnus, Just plug 18-60V into P10 (next to the GPS), Supposedly the input 
> power is steered by diodes so it is polarity insensitive.
> Anyway, It's a standard connector, I am sure you have tons of them, On mine, 
> Pin 1 is wired to negative, Pin 2 to positive.
> Pin2 is closest to the left edge looking from the front.
> 
> Gently cut the white multi coax plastic connector shell off at the back and 
> the coax connectors just pull out.
> Can do a seamless job with very little patience.
> 
> You can fit certain SMB connectors as replacement.
> Failing that, solder your GPS antenna feed centre conductor into b2, shield 
> can go in a1,a3,c1,c3.
> 
> As a sidenote, I have seen inside those nice Z3815A boxes.
> They are fakes. I know for fact they make the box in china and put an 
> old module in it :) If you have one of these fake ones, your Antenna Coax 
> will have about an inch of unexposed coax and the ground tacked in the wrong 
> place resulting in your GPS being as deaf as a post.
> 
> There are also 2 SMB on the Z3815A board itself of note supplying 1PPS and 
> 10Mhz un-buffered.
> 
> Back to the rear where you have removed the connector, 3 buffered 10Mhz 
> outputs are on d5,d8,d11 grounds are c4-12 and e4-12.
> 
> The Z3815A are a really lovely unit, Mine got down to 200ns hold pred. 
> uncertainty within a couple of days.
> Unfortunately I knocked the bench power out last night accidently while 
> trying to reach some coax snagged around something at the back.
> 
> Apparently, Don't touch the current batch on Ebay, they were tested by some 
> chap in Japan and he sold the rejects to Chinese eBay sellers.
> About 50% power on, but have poor performance.
> This is hearsay of course, YMMV..
> 
> 
> -marki
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] 
> On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson
> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 7:23 AM
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A pinout
> 
> On 06/05/2013 11:16 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> There are two very different 3815's out there. One comes in a nice 
>> box with rational connectors on it. (They are expensive). The other 
>> one is the plug in card that always seems to need a good scrub down. 
>> It appears to have the same "stuff" but connecting to it is not easy.
>> These are about 1/2 to 1/3 the price of the other ones...
> 
> Yes, the boxed up one just has a box around the same board.
> 
> There are variants with E1938A and those with another oscillator.
> 
> Mine is a plug-in module, and as I was considering if I could hook it into a 
> VXI chassi, I realized that I was lacking that PDF. A propper manual would 
> also be great.
> 
> Cheers,
> Magnus
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