Paul,

Thanks for the information. Late last night I did a search and found out about the "d-pskr-r" - an appropriate name, indeed. I gather there is no final design that says, "Here, build this and it'll work". I have a malady that I suspect is common in this group; I hate to throw anything away or convert it to a door stop.

Supposedly, WWVB reverts back to the non-psk mode twice a day, at 12:00 Noon and again at 12:00 Midnight, each time for 30 minutes. Last night my 8170 did not set. At my location the signal has been the most stable during the day, so I'm going to watch it today at noon. I'll report my useless findings afterwards. If it were to set once every 24 hours I would probably be happy as I'm not using it to time a network, just to hopefully be a little more accurate than my 30 year old kitchen clock.

By the way... Earlier I mentioned that I have two 9150-52054 GPS units. Apparently my mind and fingers were not speaking to each other at that moment as I have should've typed, (DATUM) 9390-52054. Both of these run 24/7, use separate antennas and are on a UPS. I'm sure you've seen my various epistles in this group about them. Since I've changed out their power supplies and upgraded their crystal oscillators, they're most happy.

Burt, K6OQK
www.biwa.cc



Burt search time nuts its all there. Its not a kit by any means.
Spectracom did a very good job. To good, though in reality they simply
reused the phase tracking rcvr from other units. Essentially the system
locks to the stable carrier creating a local replica and then removes the
carrier recovering just the AM. Or think of it as subtracting the carrier
leaving just the data. Very good design very bad for PSK, since the carrier
no longer has a relationship.
Nist and spectracom did put notices and such out for over a year, so what
can you say. Though we all have lots of strong opinions actually. Don't want
to start that thread again.
I have often thought and will spend no time doing it. Simply replace the
demod with a diode detector. Now its not actually quite that easy. But if
the only thing I had was a 8170 what the heck. The schematics of the system
are available at spectracom.

Near as I can tell the 8170 would run about 2 days on a fix.

Off to seriously sleazzy land. You could always bugger a gps clock into the
system adapting GPS time to local time by a micro. But that really is ugly.
Though you end up with those nice clock digits working again. Hey when you
do that send me the old rcvr parts. ;-)

Regards
Paul.


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Burt I. Weiner <b...@att.net> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Ummmm... What a revolting development this is.  My 9150-52054 have a
> smaller readout out that I can't see without climbing up on my bench,
> so I suppose I will no longer know what time it is.

Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California  U.S.A.
b...@att.net
www.biwa.cc
K6OQK
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