Jim, you are patialy correct but 99% only talk, never build any thing
Bert Kehren




Sent from Samsung tabletJim Lux <jim...@earthlink.net> wrote:On 7/6/13 7:23 PM, 
Bob Camp wrote:
> Hi
>
> Ok, lets *assume* there is some uber secret gizmo in the sat that makes the 
> unsupervised signal absolutely perfect when transmitted from the sat.
>
> The sat still moves relative to the ground. It's speed is a vector in three 
> dimensions (up / down , north / south, east / west). Depending on your 
> location relative to the sat, the doppler will be different.
>
> A cheap GPSDO will give you 1x10^-11 all day long, pretty much forever. It'll 
> do much better over long time spans. At 1.5 GHz, that would be 0.015 Hz.
>
> If doppler is in the 50 to 100 Hz range, you need to cancel it by > 1000:1 
> simply to get the carrier as good as a simple GPSDO. That's going to require 
> accurate position data on the sat, it's velocity (all real time), and your 
> location.
>
> -----------------
>
> Next you need data on the rest of the constellation. They fly in the same 
> space as the WAAS birds, and transmit on the same frequencies. As they pass 
> within the capture area of your antenna you will need a way to figure out 
> which is the GPS and which is the WAAS sat.
>
> The easy way to do that would be to run a GPS to get all the data and then 
> process it…..
>
> ----------------
>
> Dish costs something
> Downconverter costs something
> Signal processing the received signal costs something
> You still need a GPS
> You still need a good local OCXO as a flywheel
>
> It's going to be tough to convince me that's any cheaper than a GPSDO
>



I think you're right..

But time-nuts don't always go for the "easy" way..


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