On 22/07/13 04:42, Didier Juges wrote:
I am familiar with the Epson Seiko SG8002 series and nowhere does it say they 
are programmable. They are not user programmable for sure, only the distributor 
has the tools to do it. The data sheet does not have any information that would 
be a hint that they are PLL's.

Http://WWW.KO4BB.com/Timing/MicroprocessorCrystals.php

Oh, those. I remember those. About 10 years ago we had a lot of issues with these programable clocks. By measuring the 1 cycle jitter profile (use what you got, had a good sampling scope) I could fairly quickly see if it was up to no good or a possible candidate. You could clearly see the separation into two lines for the clock and that gave us a hint, which correlated well with BER estimates on the high-speed links.

If you look around, you will find several companies patenting their field programmable device, and it's infrastructure more on the concept level than the actual technology in the crystal. It's a nice complement for many odd frequencies, but when you want a *clean* signal it doesn't help. We had the distributors saying things like "you can't see that!" and we replied "Sure we can, look!". It was at that time that oscillator-selection no longer was a datasheet and price issue for us, but testing became a routine issue for the critical stuff. It was a good learning experience for a then young company and yours truly.

Cheers,
Magnus
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