Bob:
Well, this is discouraging. The receiver seems to work -- receives the sats it should. Seriously doubt there's any multipath out here in the boondocks. Maybe some tree absorption at very low elevation, but very little in the way of reflectors. I'm on 10 acres on a hillside, with trees in the distance.
Jim

On 8/2/2013 9:24 AM, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi

Either a blown receiver (likely the SAW filter) or antenna multi path.

Bob


On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Jim Sanford <wb4...@wb4gcs.org> wrote:

I am seeing the same thing -- big jumps every single time a satellite is 
counted or not.  Elevation mask 10 degrees, which should be very good and 
stable for my location.  The unit also insists on converging to a bat altitude, 
then after a while declares stored position bad . ..  then declares position 
good, even with bad altitude.

Ideas appreciated.

jimwb4...@amsat.org

On 8/1/2013 6:31 AM, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi

You may have your elevation mask set to low for your antenna or a multi path 
issue from some other source.  If the survey location is good to under a meter 
and the signals are good, there should be very little shift as sats are picked 
up or dropped.

Bob

On Aug 1, 2013, at 5:09 AM, gandal...@aol.com wrote:

Hi Charles

Thanks for your comments, the surveyed position on this is looking pretty
good but what I have now realised is that the severity of the jumps  seems
very much related to the number of sattelites being tracked.

Switching from 8 to 7, or 7 to 8, sats seems to produce the biggest  step
change whilst switching in either direction between 5 and 6, for  example,
doesn't seem to show up at all on the monitored DAC voltage.
Ok, I take that back, it does still seem to depend on the number of sats
being switched between but I've just seen a switch from 5 to 4 sats induce a
very noticeable step change in DAC voltage, so the relationship  doesn't
appear to be linear.

Unfortunately I need to power this down now for a few days but  will
investigate more later.

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR


In a message dated 01/08/2013 09:45:24 GMT Daylight Time,
charles_steinm...@lavabit.com writes:

Nigel  wrote:

at times I'm seeing very noticeable step changes in the DAC  voltage
on this one as that happens.
      *   *   *
I am a bit surprised by the extent, a  Mark Sims online plot from
2012 shows some correlation on an NTGS50AA  but not as noticeable as
this, and I  don't recall seeing  anything quite so pronounced on a
Thunderbolt.

IME (with TBolts), the  magnitude of the DAC steps with constellation
changes varies with the  accuracy of the positional data used by the
GPS.  To a point, the  more accurate the survey, the smaller the DAC
jumps will be.  (Other  errors prevent reducing the
constellation-change DAC steps to  zero.)

Mark has commented here on survey accuracy, and the methods he  used
in Lady Heather to maximize it.

Best  regards,

Charles




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