Using two TBolts?
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:00 PM, iov...@inwind.it <iov...@inwind.it> wrote: > I would add that one could run the experiment over a full year. > Antonio I8IOV > > I wrote: >> >>Looking at fig. 4 at >>http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0608/0608205v1.pdf >>I still doubt that the De Witte results would be so simply dismissed. >>The experiment started on early June and ended on late November, and the >>temperature cycle over such a period is not a ramp, still having to cross > the >>warmest months before starting to drop. >>The De Witte cable was buried, but how deep is not mentioned. >>I would see the experiment repeated. >>Antonio I8IOV >> >>tvb wrote: >> >>>Hi Steven, >>> >>>You can contact me off-line about this if you want more information. >>> >>>Being someone with plenty of cesium clocks I looked into his claims in the >>late 90's. His cables and electronics were not at all temperature > compensated. >>It's a simple mistake we all make at one point or another in our time-nuts >>career. >>> >>>Once you deal with tempco correctly no one has problems like he saw, > whether >>your clocks are as old as the one he used in 1991 or modern ones that are > ten >>to a thousand times more accurate. >>> >>>Note he ran his experiment for 178 days. If you run a ground temperature >>experiment for a full year (or years) you get complete temperature cycles; > if >>you happen to pick only half a year, starting early summer as he did, you get > a >>slow ramp. >>> >>>When you combine diurnal changes (which he saw) with half-year ramps (which >>he mis-interpreted) you get a solar-sidereal effect that looks extra- >>terrestrial. Roland was a little too eager to prove aether exists and > textbooks >>were wrong. Unfortunately he died shortly before I could email him about his >>methods and raw data. That was, what, 15 years ago. >>> >>>/tvb >>>www.LeapSecond.com >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Steven Kluck" <skluck...@yahoo.com> >>>To: "Discussion precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> >>>Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:25 AM >>>Subject: [time-nuts] de Witte's Experiment >>> >>> >>>I am new to this group, and my main interest is time keeping/ time signal >>reception, but all of this frequency talk is catching my interest. >>> >>>If >>> I had a couple of extra cesium frequency references, I would want to >>>try Roland de Witte's experiment. Simple and fascinating! Position one >>> clock about 1500 meters to the east of the other, set up a long >>>(temperature controlled) coax cable between them, and compare phase from >>> the 10MHz outputs as the earth turns. The results were enough to make >>>de Witte a fairly unpopular gentleman until his death. --Steven Kluck >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time- > nuts >>>and follow the instructions there. >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>and follow the instructions there. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.