This is off topic but I'm unsure how to do it properly.

I am trying to 'discipline' a couple of sources.  I zero beat with 20 MHz WWV 
but can't tell the difference between fading and the beat, so I am stuck in the 
vicinity of 1 Hz possible error.  That's 50 ppb I think.

What can I do to take the next step to bring the oscillators in closer 
agreement?  I am not ready to go GPS or buy a rubidium standard.


Bob



________________________________
 From: Bob Stewart <b...@evoria.net>
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Shielding a DAC line
 

Hi Bob,

I should have mentioned that I added a new 5MHz output, and the coax ran within 
1/8" of the single DAC wire going to the OCXO.  I don't think anything else 
changed, but of course there could be some flake of something on the DAC line 
that I missed.  I put on the RG-174 and I see that it's still locking high.  I 
suppose it could be just that it was a long power cycle to the oscillator.  
Come to think of it, this thing does like to move to a new voltage sometimes 
when I have it off to mess with something.  So, maybe it's just the oscillator 
being cranky.  I haven't had it off for more than just a few seconds in a long 
time.  If I weren't in test and development mode where anomalies are good, I 
think I'd put the old one back in.

Thanks as always,

Bob





>________________________________
> From: Bob Camp <li...@rtty.us>
>To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Shielding a DAC line
> 
>
>Hi
>
>I suspect that you have a ground offset between the OCXO's ground return and 
>the DAC's ground reference. The signal *should* be DC, Shielding it won't 
>hurt, but it really should not help much.  If anything is an issue a simple 
>R/C filter at the OCXO pin should nuke it better than coax will.
>
>Bob
>
>On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Bob Stewart <b...@evoria.net> wrote:
>
>> I made some minor hardware changes to my GPSDO today and I see that it's 
>> locked to a new DAC voltage about 21mV higher.  So, I was wondering about 
>> shielding the short run to the OCXO.  I have immediately available RG-174 
>> and I'm putting that in.  But, should this be some sort of steel shelled 
>> semi-rigid coax?  Maybe it's a dumb question, but I thought I'd ask.
>> 
>> Bob - AE6RV
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