Hi Bert,

I would appreciate your info/experience about the GPSDO and using this GPS 
receiver module...if this gives any additional preciosity  of the present known 
system.......or what kind of special data from the receiver improve the GPSDO 
parameters......
Just found recently that the Trimble resolution-T vers 06 has major 
deficiencies.. and has to use the not new but usable version...minimum is the  
 App.... 1.14.0   date  03/02/06                                  .             
                           
GPS CORE    1.25.0  date  
and this version can be update to 1.17......
I am also sorry that  the good old " time-nuts " list is not anymore the same 
as before...but many people used as a chat surface not related to time-nuts 
subject.....or discussing technical related subject to improve the precise time 
measurement or the GPSDO improvements.....

best rgds Ernie.




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ate: Sat, 24 May 2014 10:03:26 -0600
rom: "Don Latham" <d...@montana.com>
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Sorry to lose you, Bert.
vidently a new exclusive group is just what you need.
on
ewkeh...@aol.com
 Having used lately ublox 6M for GPSDO work I decided to buy a couple of MAX
  7C's on ebay for $ 16.00     181293242043
 Super results.  We are going to do some saw tooth analysis but most  likely
 will not post them because the deterioration of the list has resulted in
 many on the real time nuts have gone away and do like we do every thing off
 list since this has deteriorated in to a chat room with the majority of the
 listings not time or frequency related.
 Serious time nuts can contact me off list and maybe be added to the group.
 We are doing some neat projects.
 Bert Kehren
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ate: Sat, 24 May 2014 13:07:08 -0400 (EDT)
rom: ewkeh...@aol.com
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Don
 will continue to be part of the list but am frustrated with the loss of  
ome of the best we used to have and I do not consider my self one of them, 
ut  I learned immensely from then. I am not the only one with that opinion 
ooking  at the number of responses I am getting. 
 do not know how long you have been on the list but it used to be  
ifferent and better.
ert Kehren



n a message dated 5/24/2014 12:33:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
j...@montana.com writes:
Sorry to  lose you, Bert.
vidently a new exclusive group is just what you  need.
on
ewkeh...@aol.com
 Having used lately ublox 6M for  GPSDO work I decided to buy a couple of 
AX
  7C's on ebay for $  16.00     181293242043
 Super results.  We are  going to do some saw tooth analysis but most  
ikely
 will not  post them because the deterioration of the list has resulted in
 many  on the real time nuts have gone away and do like we do every thing 
ff
  list since this has deteriorated in to a chat room with the majority of  
he
 listings not time or frequency related.
 Serious time nuts  can contact me off list and maybe be added to the 
roup.
 We are doing  some neat projects.
 Bert Kehren
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ail:  POBox  404
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ate: Sat, 24 May 2014 19:07:27 +0200
rom: Hans Holzach <hans.holz...@gmail.com>
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bert,
and how, please, are us newbies and dabblers supposed to learn from you, 
he elite time-nuts, when you keep your discoveries secret, only 
ccessible to a group of hand-picked individuals? of course, this is a 
ree world, and you, like everybody, is free to share or not to share 
our knowledge. however, this is my place to learn, and you don't do me 
 favour by saying goodbye to the group. why not share your knowledge 
ere, ignore the silly questions of the not so bright, but give them the 
pportunity to follow your discussions with the ones that are on a par 
ith you? that i'd appreciate very much!
hans
    "...because the deterioration of the list has resulted in many on
   the real time nuts have gone away and do like we do every thing off
   list since this has deteriorated in to a chat room with the majority
   of the listings not time or frequency related. Serious time nuts can
   contact me off list and maybe be added to the group."

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Message: 4
ate: Sat, 24 May 2014 15:48:27 -0400 (EDT)
rom: ewkeh...@aol.com
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ubject: Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
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Hans
we are not elite most of those have long gone if you look back four  years 
re more and that is my main frustration since none of the things I have  
orked on would have been possible with out them. We will announce  some work 
oon but the frustration is with the listings that have absolutely  nothing 
o do with time nuts issues and that has resulted that some of our best  do 
ot consider it worth while to enter a dialog.

 am not saying good bye and let me make clear there no such thing as a  
illy question as long as it is on time frequency subjects.
s an example a couple of years ago it deteriorated in to discussion of  
erman Home Radiator brass fittings having built a home in Germany I  know 
bout the subject but some how did not think this was the place.

 still hope that some say enough is enough and maybe get back to what it  
as and again when on subject there are no stupid questions. Not asking is  
 sign of ignorance and stupidity. But on this site please limit it to time 
ut  issues.
e have a small group off list and will expand it to focus on time nut  
rojects since focused dialog on a project has not been possible for quite some 
time.
s an example a GPSDO for the FE 5680 that if there is an interest could  
ave a kit price of $ 45 shipping and handling included. Have to find some 
ne  that will do the kitting and shipping I will definitely not do it. There 
s  plenty of margin for some one. Actual Material cost will be between $ 15 
nd 20  depending on volume.
ert Kehren


n a message dated 5/24/2014 2:46:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ans.holz...@gmail.com writes:
bert,
and how, please, are us newbies and dabblers supposed  to learn from you, 
he elite time-nuts, when you keep your discoveries  secret, only 
ccessible to a group of hand-picked individuals? of course,  this is a 
ree world, and you, like everybody, is free to share or not to  share 
our knowledge. however, this is my place to learn, and you don't do  me 
 favour by saying goodbye to the group. why not share your knowledge  
ere, ignore the silly questions of the not so bright, but give them the  
pportunity to follow your discussions with the ones that are on a par  
ith you? that i'd appreciate very much!
hans
"...because the deterioration of the list has resulted in many on
he real time nuts have gone away and do like we do every thing  off
ist since this has deteriorated in to a chat room with  the majority
f the listings not time or frequency related.  Serious time nuts can
ontact me off list and maybe be added  to the  group."
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