Thanks Brooke.  I'll look into it.  It would be interesting to try to develop a 
frequency standard from a test tube of water.  


Bob



________________________________
 From: Brooke Clarke <bro...@pacific.net>
To: Bob Stewart <b...@evoria.net>; Discussion of precise time and frequency 
measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> 
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Magnetic Resonance Spectrometer - redux
 

Hi Bob:

This is very similar to a "proton precession magnetometer" that measures the 
total magnetic field, not in vector components.
There's a lot of amateur designs for these that you could use as the bases for 
a MRS.

There is an article in the same publication for a tube type frequency standard 
that can be used to drive a line powered 
wall clock.
The Magnatron magnets were probably Alinco, so if you upgraded to modern 
magnets it might be much more stable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_magnetometer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NMR

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
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Bob Stewart wrote:
> First, an apology.  When I changed the topic on my original post, I thought 
> that would be OK.  Apparently that's still a thread-jacking.  Sorry.
>
> I'm still interested in this Magnetic Resonance Spectrometer thing, though.  
> On page 335 of the pdf linked below by Dave, there's an experiment with an 
> MRS using water and the magnet from a magnetron available back then.  
> Apparently the resonant frequency of hydrogen nuclei in water is 6.131325 MHz 
> in that magnetic field. Did anyone ever pursue this with the idea of creating 
> a frequency standard, or was the technology just too primitive at the time?  
> Perhaps it's a repeatability problem from the magnetic flux standpoint?  I 
> can guess that temperature changes would cause enough of a flux strength 
> change to cause a problem, but that's just a guess.
>
> Bob - AE6RV
>
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> A PDF of the 1960 book can be found here:
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> http://www.sciencemadness.org/library/books/projects_for_the_amateur_scientist.pdf
>
> Dave
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