No worries Pete! if someone doesn't think its for them, then no big deal and they can move on hopefully without making others feel uncomfortable. That's the beauty of capitalism: we can make free choices and there are so many of them to make, and those who try to sell the wrong, or overpriced goods/services (hopefully) go out of business eventually. Bye, Said In a message dated 10/17/2014 19:52:30 Pacific Daylight Time, p...@petelancashire.com writes:
No where did I mention comparing specifications. It was a statement of an individual Joe being able to get a GPDSO for a very reasonable amount. Just a usable GPDSO nothing else. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bob Camp <kb...@n1k.org> wrote: > Hi > > The question on all of these setups is very much - what do you need? > > The T-Bolt was designed to meet some very specific requirements. It’s got > an OCXO onboard because of that. > > A 48 hour battery backed Rb does something very different, it’s got > different costs associated with it. > > A modern / up to date TCXO based unit makes some compromises to trade off > against power and size. > > Depending on what your system needs are, each of the first two may > uniquely fill a bill that the others will not and can not. If you need to > run 120 days on battery, the third will win the contest easily. If you want > to run on something other than GPS, number 3 is your choice. > > Cost wise, it all depends on when you bought what. I have Rb’s that cost > less than $40 and T-Bolts that cost less than $100. You can still get > surplus T-Bolt like objects (OCXO based surplus GPSDO’s) for under $130. I > also have some stuff I’ve bought on eBay (and other surplus outlets) over > the years that turned out to be less than perfect. Depending on surplus > gear in a commercial system would be silly compared to using newly > manufactured parts. It all depends on what you need. > > Bob > > > On Oct 17, 2014, at 5:19 PM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Don't want to hijack any discussion and am looking forward to the ebay > site > > and ordering. Whats amazing is the power spec in addition to other > specs. I > > rechecked the spec 1/16th watt at 3.3V. My RB in the basement draws 24 > > watts just idling along and keeping two hefty SLA batteries charged for a > > 48 hour run time if needed. > > > > I can clearly see the case of careful support system design such that a > > battery set can be charged and even in a power failure run several days > on > > a small battery. > > SLA 7 amp was something like 100 plus hours. Bert introduced me to some > of > > the Lithium battery technologies that can be had for reasonable cost and > > are small and dense. > > > > But that said really no need for a battery since restarts are fast... > > Lots to think about. Like LEDs drawing more power then the system and > > sloppy base power supplies wasting power. > > Regards > > Paul > > WB8TSL > > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Pete Lancashire < > p...@petelancashire.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Sorry to create any misunderstanding > >> > >> I was saying thanks to TVB/TAPR for all their effort, and Said/JLT for > >> doing what they did for the group > >> > >> I was in no way comparing the used Thunderbolts to the LTE Lite. > >> > >> -pete > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Jim Sanford <wb4...@wb4gcs.org> wrote: > >> > >>> And, somehow I expect that my LTE-LITE will actually work, which my > >>> thunderbolt never did. (Very noisy) It continues to collect dust.... > >>> On 10/17/2014 3:49 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > >>> > >>>> First three cheers to LTE for making these available. > >>>> > >>>> It reminds me when Motorola made a developers kit for the then > >>>> new 68HC11 MCU available for $68.11. > >>>> > >>>> I know of one design win they got that more then made of their > marketing > >>>> costs. > >>>> > >>>> Another that hit me is with inflation the LTE Lite is not much more > then > >>>> what many of us paid for our Thunderbolts. > >>>> > >>>> For those new to the list ... > >>>> > >>>> https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2008-May/031100.html > >>>> > >>>> http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/tapr-tbolt/ > >>>> > >>>> In 2008, $124, the LTE Lite in 2014 $195. > >>>> > >>>> With 'real' inflation (not the 11% you get online) the $71 difference > is > >>>> not much more. > >>>> > >>>> My two backup Thunderbolts cost me $145 each, just before they hit > $200 > >>>> then became history. > >>>> > >>>> Again thanks to Said and JLT !!!! > >>>> > >>>> -pete > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > >>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >>>> and follow the instructions there. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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