Hi

So far, I have not found any of the Rb’s that came out of the KS boxes with 
troubles. The ones I got and pulled from boxes myself all have worked fine. The 
units that got pulled on the other side of an ocean, not so much. There have 
been a couple of them with issues. What ever they go through getting shipped 
overseas and salvaged, it’s not doing the parts any good. That’s one of the 
reasons getting the newer design KS boxes NIB has a lot of appeal. There are 
infant mortality reliability issues to deal with on new stuff. I’d rather have 
those issues than end of life and corrosion. 

Bob


> On Nov 19, 2014, at 9:05 PM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> And I am the happy owner of 4 or 5 of the $25 RBs. Hey they are old but you
> can recover them with the old heatgun trick. That said glowing things like
> those do tend to wear out. I could see why they moved away from them.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Bob Camp <kb...@n1k.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Lucent has been putting GPS based Radio Frequency Timing Generators (RFTG)
>> into cell sites for a long time. They all have the 15 MHz and pps outputs
>> in common. Lucent also seems to like one paint color and an approximate
>> size. For what ever reason (because they can?) the model numbers and
>> internal designs change from time to time. For quite a while they really
>> liked the idea of running Rb’s in cell sites. Looking at the latest batch
>> of parts, that seems to have changed around 1999.
>> 
>> Lots of generations of very similar looking boxes with very different
>> stuff inside each of them.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:53 PM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just saw the picture of the units front panel and it looked the same.
>>> Oh well.
>>> Regards
>>> Paul
>>> WB8TSL
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Bob Camp <kb...@n1k.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> This is a branch thread that never got it’s title changed to drop the
>>>> KS-24361 part of it. More or less it’s “compare the older KS boxes to
>> the
>>>> newer ones”.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Dan Rae <dan...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/19/2014 2:47 PM, paul swed wrote:
>>>>>> Was doing a search for Lucent RFTGm-II-XO looking for alternates to
>> the
>>>>>> $150 solution.
>>>>>> A 10 Mhz mod popped up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://telcodata.us/~myself/Lucent-RFTGm-Modification.pdf
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looks simple enough and I have not validated anything.
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> WB8TSL
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul, that has nothing to do with the current ebay offerings that have
>>>> generated so much traffic recently...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
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