Hi Tim,

The HP5371A era was Frequency and Time Interval Analyzers, and I think Time Interval Analyzers (TIA) kind of stuck.

The HP5372A introduced HW-support for histogram generation, so that collection can conntinue for milions of samples rather than stop after 8191 samples. The patent for it is fairly readable. Do read the programmers manual, as it shows how the processing is done.

Wavecrest then went down that path too, and they shifted the term to Signal Integrity Analyzer (SIA), as in the SIA-3000.

A TIA uses a time-stamping counter as base, and adds software processing, so I think the term is fairly good and relevant.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 06/17/2015 12:50 PM, Tim Shoppa wrote:
There is a commonly used kind of pulse train analyzer that records and then
dumps timestamps (absolute and/or delta) of low-to-high and high-to-low
transitions for analysis on a computer. Is there a name for this method? I
first saw it being used in the 80's to debug and reverse-engineer
broadcast-over-POTS codecs and GCR floppies, but I'm sure it existed well
before that.

This is similar to e.g. Tom's PICPET but we didn't use it for precision
timestamping - we used it as a kind of generic computer front end for
various pulse train modulation analysis.

Maybe "Time-Stamping Counter" is the generic term for the device? Is there
a phrase for data recovery/inspection using the recorded data?

Tim N3QE

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Robert Gilchrist Huenemann <
bo...@razzolink.com> wrote:

I stumbled onto the time nuts list from a posting on modulation domain
analysis a couple of weeks ago. I am enjoying the discussion.

I want to comment on modulation domain analysis, or phase digitizing. This
is a technique that uses a period mode frequency counter, or two such
counters back to back, to recover the modulation history of a frequency
modulated waveform.

This technique was first used in the HP9540 automated transceiver test
system. This system was described in the August 1973 HP Journal. The HP9540
used a single HP5326 period mode counter with a 10 MHz clock. At that time,
no counter was available with a higher clock frequency.

A breadboard system was assembled as part of the HP9540 development effort
which used two HP5326 counters back to back. To insure that alternate
periods were measured, the second HP5326 ran off the gate output of the
first. However, it was realized that the characteristics of the HP9540 and
its specific application were such that two counters were not required.
Please refer to my HP Journal article for details.

The HP9540 was developed at HP's Automatic Measurement Division. This
division was disbanded in 1974.

Modulation Domain Analysis and Phase Digitizing were terms that came into
use with the later development of specialized stand alone instruments that
combined computational capability, back to back period mode counters,
higher clock frequencies, interpolation and algorithms for various
measurements. All of these were worthwhile improvements on the basic
technique first used in the HP9540.

I would be happy to answer questions. Thank you for allowing me to post
this information.


Robert Gilchrist Huenemann, M.S.E.E.
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Hollister, CA 95023-9708
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