I've had a chance to see Jeff in action at Morehead, and what he and the team there are doing is really incredible -- and inspirational. He's built a hands-on electronic and mechanical shop, mainly out of surplus stuff, that gives the students tremendous practical experience, while they are putting stuff on their resumes that will make them very employable.

And Jeff's surplus stuff is incredible -- among other things, he has a 40 foot (I think) anechoic chamber for antenna testing. And that 21M dish is fun to play with. I keep bugging him to hook it to a decent frequency reference...

Jeff has hosted several ham radio technical events, and each time a bunch of his students were involved. They seemed to enjoy it a lot, except for having to hang around with all the old white guys. :-/

John
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On 11/16/2015 10:56 AM, Jeff Kruth via time-nuts wrote:
Hi Guys!
I have been watching this thread. And I have some comments on what I have
read.  I teach at the undergrad & grad level in the Space Science  Center at
Morehead State University. We have a Space Systems Engineering Degree
track, BS & MS.  Couldnt call it EE as UK has an EE program, dup not  allowed in
state system.

Our students build a lot, do a lot of labs, learn RF, mechatronics,
microprocessors, satellites. They learn Solidworks and Altium, do designs of  
PCBs
and H/W. We have a new 21 meter dish that they learn to drive and we track
satellites for NASA and others. We have built 7 cubesat systems and had
them  launched. Our kids actually build the satellites. For some things like
solar  cell mounting, we have a "model-maker" quality staff guy do that, but
otherwise  the students are at least waist deep in everything else. We hire
some undergrads  and they work closely with staff. We have them use spec
ans,, network  analyzers, the anechoic chamber, the CNC machine shop, the 3D
printers for  mechanical verification, etc. We have a complete "shake & bake"
qual lab  here with vacuum chamber, etc. We are a one stop shop for cubesat
satellite  design and development. (Bob Twiggs, the cubesat co-inventor,
works here!)

I run the Undergrad and Masters thesis classes and make my student run
their project as though it was an industry job, complete with a lot of writing
like proposals, PDR,CDR, final report, budget, timeline, etc. They learn
"the  process" and I have gotten excellent feedback on this over my 20 year
teaching  stint on the usefulness of this approach.

We have a good sized staff of older guys, like me, mostly in "retirement"
(2nd job) mode, who are basically training their replacement in the work
force.  All the older skills and the newer ones as well are used. A deadbug
breadboard saves a lot of time in validating a design, but SMT stuff is tough
to  do so we use modelling and PCB constructuion as well, both approaches
are  useful & applicable.

Currently we are the prime on the LunarIceCube bird slated for launch in
2018 looking for lunar water transport mechanisms. We are working with
Goddard  & JPL.  Students are heavily involved and get a lot of exposure. We  
have
all who will bite at it get there ham ticket.

The USA is in a lot of trouble as far as competent engineers goes, with the
  graying of the workforce. Over 80 % of the RF engineers in the USA are 45
or  older (I know, I am one of them and track the numbers).  Software apps
for  your I-phone will not move us ahead in the world, things still need
built and  tested in labs. What good is your wireless handheld thingy without
the RF  part??

Most schools do not have the facilities we have. In my case, I brought over
  15 tractor trailer loads of RF gear and lab from my Maryland R&D  business
here to Kentucky (because I am crazy, that's why!) and built a  facility at
the school that is un-matched in the state. C-beams, multiple 8566B,  8510C
vnas, etc. We do stuff, our students "see" stuff and we have paced people
at some prestigious organizations. Goldstone wants some of our people for
the  DSN.

Anyway, the point is, there are a few places that blend "old-school" with
state-of-the-art techniques to produce solid fresh-outs that can think with
their hands and head.  This is our goal.  About 1/3 of our undergrad  class
is women! And some of them absolutely love this stuff, eat it up! There is
hopand not all schools are the same.

Regards,
Jeff Kruth, WA3ZKR
Staff Electrical Engineer and Instructor
Space Science Center
Morehead State University
Morehead, KY

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