Hi

….. ummm ….. errr …..

Cell phones since they first came out have *never ever* been setup to run on 
anything other than GPS. Retrofitting them to use something else would take a 
decade or more. We didn’t “destroy the backup”, there never was one. Pretty 
much all of our surplus gizmos are cell tower surplus (like 99.99%). 

Bob

> On Feb 26, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Burt I. Weiner <b...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Maybe I'm misreading what you're saying, but no matter the cause, it points 
> out what can and does happen when you put all the mission critical eggs in 
> one basket.  That we don't have as reliable as possible a backup system, or 
> why we destroyed the one we had, is mind boggling.  This is a perfect example 
> of what happens when you have people who don't understand the problem/s 
> making the wrong final decisions in spite of having been warned.
> 
> It is my belief that if we are to be so reliant on these systems for so many 
> things, we need to have a functioning backup system in place.
> 
> Burt, K6OQK
> 
> 
> 
>> Mark Sims wrote:
>> >> When is some organization going to explain what happened in February for 
>> >> almost two hours starting at 00:16 GMT?  That subject has gone silent.  
>> >> Rob, NC0B
>> > I heard back from NAVCEN.  They said it was a Trimble issue and that 
>> > Trimble would contact me (they didn't).   But that does not jive with 
>> > reports of failures in Motorola, Navman, etc receivers.
>> 
>> I think we need to distinguish here.
>> 
>> The January 26 issue was due to faulty data sent by the satellites,
>> which caused GPS receivers to apply a wrong UTC correction which caused
>> the UTC time to be off by 13.7 us.
>> 
>> As explained by Luc Gaudin from http://naelcom.com (who obviously sell
>> Trimble GPS receivers) the February 13 issue was indeed just a Trimble
>> firmware problem. See:
>> https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2016-February/096042.html
>> https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2016-February/096050.html
>> 
>> Martin
> 
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