Bob wrote:

I don't mean to cause offense, but is everything you don't like crap?  The 
reality is that whatever the market will bear is what determines what comes to 
market.  If you can find high quality goods on ebay that can be modified to fit 
your needs, then you win.  There is a substantial market that either cannot do 
those mods or would rather spend their time elsewhere.  So, what they're 
willing to pay is going to determine what's available for sale.

No, but I often view things that don't do the job they need to do as crap, especially if they are offered in such a way as to suggest that they are, in fact, useful for the intended purpose. So, let's take the proposed power supply -- a switching regulator to develop +5v and -12v supplies from an existing +12v supply, with noise of 35mVp-p, offered specifically as a power supply solution for Tbolt GPSDOs. If the offering said explicitly that a Tbolt can't provide its best performance with the product because of its high noise level, then I might be on the fence about whether it was "crap." But if it were offered as a power supply for Tbolts with no mention of what I consider to be a large departure from acceptable performance for the intended use, then yes, I'd probably consider it "crap."

The issue is that many users do not know what the relevant needs are. Rightly or wrongly, they are relying on suppliers to do that job for them. So, offering something for a particular use carries the implication that it is really useful for that purpose. If a seller tells a time-nut that a power supply is designed to run a Tbolt, an implicit representation has been made that it will work in that role as a time-nut would expect it to. But IMO, the proposed product would not do so because of the high noise level.

So, what distinguishes this from packages that have been sold to time-nuts in the past that included power supplies that also did not work in that role as a time-nut would expect? In those cases, due largely to this list, there was widespread discussion of the issue and equally widespread knowledge that for time-nuts-quality results, the PS that came with the package needed to be replaced with something better. So at this point, if someone offers a PS to time nuts for use with Tbolts, it would be natural to assume that the seller was familiar with that history and was offering the "something better." So today, if that is *not* the case, it should be stated explicitly.

Best regards,

Charles


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