Hi

> On Feb 16, 2017, at 1:30 AM, Ruslan Nabioullin <rnabioul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 02/15/2017 01:17 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
>> Why set up a dedicated NTP server if you only have two computers
>> that will use it?    Your server will be accurate to a few
>> microseconds but your two computers will only by good to a few
>> milliseconds because ethernet is not nearly as good as PPS.
> 
> Well Ethernet can be *extremely* accurate if PTP is used (a whitepaper 
> specifies <= 100 ns accuracy if the LAN is optimized for it).

PTP single shot over ethernet is not at the < 100 ns level, even with proper 
cards. In real world settings, the traffic level for sub
100 ns PTP can be pretty high. Some situations appear to require > 100K 
transactions per second. I’ve never seen anything quite that
extreme myself. 

Bob


> 
> Well, the assumption here is that one would render this service available to 
> the public, registering the server(s) with the NTP website and/or the NTP 
> Pool Project; n.b. this is still possible for connections lacking a static IP 
> address, by means of an IPv6 tunnel, available at no cost from at least one 
> vendor.  Otherwise yes, by some perspectives it can be considered quite 
> pointless and wasteful to operate dedicated servers, standards, receivers, 
> etc. with no means of time transfer to customers.
> 
> > NTP is almost zero load on the CPU and the best thing is the NTP
> > accuracy is not effected by CPU load  SO you can run other service
> > without degrading the NTP server.
> 
> Well n.b. TVB's hardware PPS timestamping post.  Also WWV and CHU decoding by 
> NTP's modules can be problematic, as well as the obvious case of the server 
> being overloaded.  Finally note that based on others' experimentation, the 
> motherboard's XO temperature is nontrivially-highly correlated with CPU load, 
> so for better motherboard XO-based holdover performance, once must create an 
> ersatz oven utilizing the CPU(s), by running them at full utilization 
> (obviously with proper scheduling priority), so typically volunteer 
> distributed computing project(s) such as BOINC (SETI@home, etc.), 
> Folding@Home, etc.  Of course then power consumption becomes problematic.
> 
> -Ruslan
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