On 11/13/17 9:32 AM, Gregory Beat wrote:
I grew up east of the Iowa/Missouri border, so this boundary dispute was 
well-known ... and occurred at same time Joseph Smith (Mormons) was at Nauvoo, 
IL (1839-1844).
In 2006, the Iowa-Missouri border was investigated with GPS, as much an archeology 
project as locating the historic Sullivan & Brown survey markers.
http://www.theamericansurveyor.com/PDF/TheAmericanSurveyor_MO-IABoundaryLineInvestigation_Mar-Apr2006.pdf
Iowa-Missouri Border War (1826-1849)
http://iagenweb.org/history/soi/soi32.htm

NOAA’s : National Geodetic Survey (NGS) made news in 2009 when media reported 
that the Four Corners monument was in wrong place (by 2.5 miles).
Deseret News
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/705299160/Four-Corners-Monument-is-indeed-off-mark.html
NOAA statement and clarification
https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/INFO/fourcorners.shtml
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I’m in France and I don’t think that any borders in Europe were defined by 
astronomical observation, but in the US I believe that at least some of the 
state borders were thus fixed. As a second’s error in time will be about a 
nautical mile in US latitudes, I wonder if anyone has measured with GPS, how 
good the original surveys were?




Googling "cadastral survey" would be how you'd find out.

There's also a famous case of the border between New Mexico and Colorado being crooked because of poor surveying, but the monuments define the border not the words in the laws defining the border.
http://www.denverpost.com/2007/08/02/were-not-so-square-after-all/
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/267/30/case.html

Same with the border between Utah and Colorado.

The increased use of GPS has made it trivial to go out and find a particular position - but remember - it's the monument that controls the location and boundary, not the coordinates. My house sits on a lot where the corners are defined relative to some physical monumentation (a brass disk nailed to the sidewalk typically,with a dimple in the nail head) - so as my house gradually drifts north a few cm/year, I don't have to worry about the line shifting.

Sometimes this "tied to the monument" thing breaks down - and that's what court cases are made of.


In any case, most of the state boundaries in the western United States were done with astronomical measurements. Probably using a chronometer for time, as opposed to using lunar occultation of stars.

The Commissioner of the General Land Office employed Ehud N. Darling, a surveyor and astronomer, to make this survey. He made the survey in 1868, and filed his field notes in the Land Office. In accordance with his instructions, he adopted as the northeast corner of New Mexico a stone monument that had been established by Capt. J. N. Macomb, an Army Engineer, in 1859, to mark the intersection of the 37th parallel with the 103d meridian, and, taking this as his beginning point, surveyed and marked the line of the parallel, as determined by astronomical observations and calculations for latitude, westwardly to the 109th meridian, a distance of over 331 miles. ...

Several years later, the Commissioner of the General Land Office employed John J. Major, a surveyor and astronomer, to survey and mark the remaining portion of the southern boundary of the Territory of Colorado, extending along the 37th parallel to the 102d meridian. Major made this survey in 1874, and marked the line of the parallel between the Macomb monument and that meridian. The field notes of this survey were filed in the Land Office and approved by the Commissioner.

and so on over the next 20-30 years

This kind of surveying was hard work: hostile native americans attacking survey parties, wildlife (lions, bears, etc.). The wildlife problem wasn't quite as bad as tigers eating surveyors in India doing the Great Trigonometric Survey.



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