That’s not a problem, that means you’re phase locked instead of just frequency 
locked.

This is the phase-nuts mailing list, right? :-)

Tim N3QE

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 6:19 PM, Alan Melia <alan.me...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> I dont think working that way would give a stable clock in the UK. Our 
> frequency can vary more than the US but the number of cycles between 0800 on 
> one day and the next is mandated to be correct (I presume +/- 25 :-))  ). So 
> you would be chasing a moving target, and at no time of the day need the 
> frequency be 50.000Hz
> 
> Alan
> G3NYK
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Harman" <j99har...@gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" 
> <time-nuts@febo.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] accurate 60 hz reference chips/ckts
> 
> 
>> Since the power line has the desired long term stability but is poor on the
>> short term, I wonder if a solution might be to use it as the reference for
>> a "power line disciplined oscillator."
>> 
>> You would want a filter time constant of several hours in the control loop
>> to smooth out the variations in the 60 Hz.
>> 
>> Or it might be easier to rip the guts out of the Radio Shack clock, just
>> keeping the display, and drive the display with an Arduino and a DS3231 RTC
>> chip as the reference.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Hal Murray <hmur...@megapathdsl.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> apollo...@gmail.com said:
>>> > Want to provide an accurate  (relatively accurate) 60 hz reference to > 
>>> > the
>>> > chip.   Some room inside for custom modifications.  Does a TCXO or
>>> similar
>>> > exist in a small package that provides 60 hz ticks?
>>> 
>>> I doubt if you will find a TCXO that puts out 60 Hz.  But it's only one
>>> chip
>>> to make a divider.  The trick is to do it in software rather than hardware.
>>> 
>>> The real question is what sort of error pattern are you interested in. The
>>> power company has good long term stability.  How good is your TCXO?  It
>>> would
>>> be fun to play with the numbers.  On the other hand, can you derive your 60
>>> Hz from a GPSDO?
>>> 
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