John,

Depends on your setup. If one of the channels is synchronous with the time-base, then you can expect much less noise on that channel, since you are not sweeping two clocks asynchronous to the time-base, so you will for relatively clean sources only expose a fractional range of the phase errors.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 2019-01-08 19:48, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
Hi Luciano --

Thanks for posting that.  There's a subtle point about the noise floor that's forever been on my list of things to investigate: the noise floor should be lower in timestamp mode than in time interval (A->B) mode.

That's because in timestamp mode there is jitter contribution only from a single measurement, whereas in time interval mode there is a measurement from each channel so you have two jitter components.  So a guess is that the floor should be about sqrt(2) lower in timestamp mode.  Someday I will test that theory.

John
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On 1/8/19 12:38 PM, tim...@timeok.it wrote:

    .gif of the TICC noise floor.
    Luciano


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    Hi Paul,
    here the TICC noise floor.
    Regarding the GPS/TICC versus a good Rubidium standard like the HP5065A , you cannot apreciate the Rubidium ADEV stability lower than 10Kseconds.
    Luciano


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    Hi All sorry for a new be question but what is a TICC regards Paul B UK

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    I have a situation in which I have access to a GPSDO 10MHz source but for     only about 10-12 hours at a time. My current residence does not allow a
    permanent GPS antenna therefore I am limited in its use.

    I do realise that the long term stability of the GPSDO is somewhat superior     to a Rubidium source. I'm planning on using my TICC to validate both my     GPSDO and RFS. I'm aware that such a short "power on" period is somewhat     counterproductive but I have no other options. I'd like to know if a 6-8     hour window for the GPSDO is sufficient for use as a 10MHz source for the
    TICC.

    I appreciate any and all comments.

    Regards, Chris
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