On 2/15/19 11:06 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote:
https://www.nist.gov/news-events/events/2019/06/2019-nist-time-and-frequency-seminar

Mother of God, John, what makes this meeting worth the price?

Hi Bill,

Yes, it sounds high but perhaps not out of line for multi-day professional 
conferences / seminars these days. True, you have to factor in Denver flights and 
Boulder hotels. But when you consider where it's held and who's speaking and how 
long it lasts, it starts to look like something between a bargain and a worthy 
bucket list item. NIST takes T&F seriously; this is not some sort of cheap 
corporate or product marketing show.

Hotels in Boulder aren't that expensive, compared to other places. Govt per diem is $159/lodging, Meals & Incidentals $66. The implication is that you'll find plenty of places where hotel is <=$159/night (Compare Boston for IMS at $273 + $71 and let's not even get started on Silicon Valley hotel costs)

Denver is a big hub airport so you can get there non-stop from lots of places.

Particularly if you're going to it as part of "work", the cost is quite reasonable in the context of your salary - which is how conference organizers look at it. When I was on the organizing committee for a conference last year, we struggled with the whole "what should it cost" thing. Obviously, you'd like it as cheap as possible, but there are significant costs associated with putting on a conference.

Since NIST is US Government, there's probably GSA rules about how much they have to charge for the use of the resources.



Look over the agenda and note both the wide range of topics covered and the personnel doing 
so. The sessions tend to be very high quality. A portion of attendees are the kind sent by 
their companies to "learn about time & frequency" this week, so as a practicing 
time nut you are well above that. On the other hand, NIST keeps the conference current and 
practical and detailed so even the most seasoned time nut will learn a great deal. You may 
also meet lifelong contacts. I have attended and highly recommend it.

If it's just registration price that keeps an energetic curious time nut from 
attending let me know. In years past I've recommended NIST allow a limited time 
nut discount and that's worked. Let me know off-list if this is something you'd 
like to be considered for.

/tvb


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