Hi

The pictures shown earlier are of a “survey antenna”. In the post I was careful 
to refer to a “survey antenna”
as the point of the post. Ideally you want to be meters away from any metal.

Bob

> On Apr 30, 2019, at 5:42 PM, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts 
> <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
> 
> I can see that on survey situation but will it affect timing installations?
> Will you give me an idea how far those bullet type antenna needs to be?  My 
> antenna sits on a very short pole (2 feet?) and its base is mounted to frame 
> of my screened in porch.  Roof and structure is aluminum, which is very much 
> like ground plane and reflective.
> 
> --------------------------------------- 
> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya
> I'm stuck in a wormhole....  Hello, worms! 
> 
>   On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 5:01:05 PM EDT, Bob kb8tq <kb...@n1k.org> 
> wrote:  
> 
> Hi
> 
> You very much do *not* want to put a ground plane on one of the modern survey
> antennas.(Chinese or US or Canadian or …)  The better ones are very explicit 
> about this. They are optimized to sit on a pole in free air. Anything else 
> and the 
> pattern is degraded. ( = multipath gets worse)
> 
> Bob
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 2:23 PM, David J Taylor via time-nuts 
>> <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> No, no ground plane. Don’t really have a lot of room for that in the window. 
>> Out of curiosity, how large of an impact have you found with a ground plane?
>> 
>> Btw, I love the pan!
>> 
>> Denny
>> ============================
>> 
>> Yes, Denny, choosing the baking tray (IIRC) was fun - I wanted as large a 
>> flat area as I could reasonably get, but it has to be magnetic.  I don't 
>> recall what I took into the shop to test with!
>> 
>> Unfortunately I didn't make any specific measurements with and without the 
>> ground plane, but I did see a noticeable increase in SNR.  Even a small e.g. 
>> tobacco tin may help.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> David
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