Hi

All of the Thunderbolt E’s that I have seen have single oven OCXO’s. 
I don’t know of any “current production” GPSDO’s that come stock
with double ovens. There are a few with some interesting options. 
I have not dug into just what all those odd options actually are. 

Bob


> On Jul 20, 2021, at 7:55 PM, ew via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> There is a lot of misinformation out there. It is not the OCXO that changes, 
> Bruce did extensive testing and I did some too. The Vectron is super, would 
> like to know what is in it but do not want to open one. Once warmed up the 
> stable OCXO temperature is a main contributor to the board temperature. Using 
> a Dual Oven may give you a warm feeling but only adds 1 more Watt of stable 
> heat to the board making the temperature change smaller. The OCXO is 
> important during Hold Over and that is why it is there. The changes are the 
> DAC which is updated once a second. Very temperature sensitive. Cheap. We 
> have done the tests   10811, OSA 8600, FRK and M100. For fun did use a cheap 
> small OCXO, no performance change. Was done in Juerg's temperature stable 
> basement.  See attached picture.                                              
>                                                                               
>      Bert Kehren  
> My experiences with the T'Bolt have not been entirely satisfactory.  If I
> set the loop
> lime constant long enough to get a satisfying smoothing of the GPS noise (a
> few hundred
> seconds), then the thermal sensitivity of the VCXO on the T'Bolt rears its
> ugly head and
> I see a lot of my HVAC system cycling instead.  The T'Bolt E supposedly has
> a double-
> oven XO, so I'd like to give that a try.  But my wallet says "whoa"!
> 
> According to Bodnar, his units do have some choices in the time constant
> setting.
> I've been considering ordering a Bodnar just for frequency agility, but
> have been
> holding off out of concern for the complications of dealing with a foreign
> supplier.
> 
> Dana 
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