Hej, On Monday, 29 November 2021 04:29:58 CET Matt Huszagh wrote:
> I've got a 10 MHz distribution amplifier and am considering purchasing a > 5 MHz reference. Most (not all) of my equipment accepts a 5 MHz > reference, but I'd like to be able to use the existing distribution > amplifier I have if possible. Therefore, I'm considering ways I might > generate a low-noise 10 MHz signal from the 5 MHz reference. > > An obvious way is to use a doubler. However, as I understand it, even an > ideal doubler will add 20log(2)=6 dB of phase noise to the 10 MHz > signal. Yes, this is a fundamental physical property which cannot be avoided. You can see it that way: If there is a given fluctuating time delay in your otherwise perfect 5 MHz signal, the amount of phase shift this time fluctuation corresponds to in a 10 MHz signal is simply twice as big as in the 5 MHz signal, simply because the phase evolves twice as fast at 10 MHz. This factor of two makes up the 6dB in noise power. If you divide the 6 dB noisier 10 MHz signal down again, (neglecting additional technical noise), you get the original performance of your 5 MHz signal back. Cheers, Jürgen _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-le...@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to and follow the instructions there.