Hi

I would be careful with that paper since part of what it says is not 
(in general) correct.

Bob

> On Jun 8, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Ross P via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,Thank you very much, this paper answered some questions.
> 
>    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 12:38:04 PM PDT, Hans-Georg Lehnard via 
> time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:  
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> read this paper from Connor-Winfield about differences AT/SC cuts. 
> 
> http://www.conwin.com/pdfs/at_or_sc_for_ocxo.pdf  
> 
> Am 2022-06-08 04:04, schrieb Ross P via time-nuts:
> 
>> Hello,My first post.I have created a 64-bit frequency counter, 15.9 digits 
>> after converting to floating point. 
>> Oscillator random walk is +- 0.01 ppm with an SC cut crystal at 10 Hz 
>> filtered, and 0.1 ppm with at cut.Is it the crystal or the oscillator 
>> electronics (inside a can) that determines the noise?The oscillators I am 
>> using are 1 double oven SC 10 MHz vs 1 single oven AT cut 10 MHz in one 
>> test,and 2 generic crystal oscillators (on a Terasic DE1 cyclone II FPGA 
>> board) for the other test.I assume the single oven oscillator will have 
>> better stability than commodity oscillators.I am able to chart random walk 
>> at up to a few thousand samples per second at full double 
>> precisionresolution, and FFT shows some alien tones in the walk pattern that 
>> come and go suddenly, I thinkdue to oscillating mode changes in the 
>> oscillator itself, mostly show in the commodity crystals.My question is: is 
>> the SC quartz the most stable for random walk.I would like to know if such a 
>> frequency counter / alien to detector is useful enough to be producedfor 
>> sale? It would require at least 3 separate frequencies of
> refer
>> ence time standards and > 50Klogic elements in the FPGA for 3 cross coupled 
>> monitors to cover a range of 0 to 50 MHz. 
>> Quite a risk if no one needs it. 3 separate high stability reference 
>> oscillators are expensive.rp
>> 
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