Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
If, as you say, ICMP is needed for smooth network operation, then a default deny policy (which still makes sense) should specifically open those up.

Yes, you need to pass through at least the various types of "unreachable" messages or else you get strange behaviour varying from long time-outs when sites are down to certain sites that are not reachable to you while they are perfectly reachable for others.
(due to issues with determination of MTU)

Asides from that, it is indeed quite common to get "administratively
blocked" ICMP messages when you run an NTP server.
Those are just ignorant users. They have set up an NTP client but have
not allowed incoming NTP in their firewall.  They don't notice that
their clock is not being synced.

Won't such people have a set up where they allow incoming packets related to outgoing packets? Doesn't that work well enough for UDP? Or is there more that I am failing to understand?
Well there may be all kinds of reasons for problems, but notice in my previous mail that I needed to trace only for 16 seconds to get the first instance of this problem. So it is quite common. Even though it should be detected by the system's owner.

Rob
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